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THE MOTHER OF ALL SEARCHES

#16 Guest_Denis Richard_*

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Posted 26 June 2006 - 09:55 PM

Starry Night, on Jun 24 2006, 12:00 AM, said:

Quantity is good when, I go to a buffet, but to some degree you expect quality and depth as well. (meaning, I like more than three choices of meat, and the food should have flavor, and not be half hazardly prepared, for example....)

Quality is what I expect in my pen patent search. I want one stop shopping for my patents, the abiltity to see similar filling mechanisms, or even have the ability to look up who, was doing what, for who, in the industry.

So, you expect the research to be done and pre-digested already. It's your prerogative; You have the right to rely entirely on second-hand information.

If I may continue your analogy, there is difference between a restaurant and a market : whatever the quality, the former offers you processed food, while the later gives you access to the base ingredients. Stepping into a produce market and grumbling that you will have to cook before you eat is a behavior that can be called odd at best.

You may consider that Antonios has organized the warehouse of patents into a neater shelved market. Restaurants can be good too, but only as good as the Chef. Unfortunately, many "Celebrity Chef" in the pen world are simple cooks, storytellers self-promoted to the rank of Historian.

Were I to be interested in that sort of cuisine, I would like to have the practical tools to cook myself. But as I am not as much interested by the history of things as I am by the story of people, I'll go on chatting about such inconsequential things as what makes people's heart beat faster rather than louder, or what humbles them, rather than makes them pursue onanistic ego trips.

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 04:43 PM

kirchh, on Jun 26 2006, 02:12 PM, said:

Starry Night, on Jun 25 2006, 02:10 AM, said:

why do you insist on calling me "rick"?

who is rick?


Rick Krantz. You're Rick Krantz, aren't you?

--Daniel


Hey, what happened? You deleted all your posts!

To paraphrase something you wrote recently, a question, why would you register under an alias for your name? Just seems to be a way to be misleading.... that's what I see....

I did notice that you said, regarding the dust up about Tech ads and your images, "If FPN decides to not respond, I might look into other avenues as to what I can do." I hope your recent activities here under an alias aren't part of some kooky Spy vs. Spy thing...

Anyway, I leave you with the words of Rob Astyk:

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there's the old adage that you can't cheat an honest man. The corollary to that is that an honest man doesn't need to go skulking about, trying to break in though an unlocked basement window. He walks up to the door, introduces himself and asks if he can come in and talk. That's how an honest person behaves.


Consider coming back as yourself and talking about cool pen stuff.

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Posted 14 December 2006 - 05:38 PM

OK, the mother of all searches is no more the most powerful tool.
Google patent search (as Chris has posted today) is available.
Try the advanced one. It is awesome:

advanced patent search.

The big advantage of this over EPO is that it can get you pre 1920 information.
For example:

these are all patents from 1900 to 1920 with the words "fountain pen" in them.

This makes some earlier work that I did obsolete, as this summer I was trying to collect all patents from 1910 to 1919. That's OK - it was fun smile.gif

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Posted 15 December 2006 - 07:57 PM

QUOTE(antoniosz @ Dec 14 2006, 09:38 AM)
OK, the mother of all searches is no more the most powerful tool.
Google patent search (as Chris has posted today) is available.
Try the advanced one. It is awesome:

advanced patent search.

The big advantage of this over EPO is that it can get you pre 1920 information.
For example:

these are all patents from 1900 to 1920 with the words "fountain pen" in them.

This makes some earlier work that I did obsolete, as this summer I was trying to collect all patents from 1910 to 1919. That's OK - it was fun  smile.gif

I've been meaning to have a look-see that this since reading about it on PT the other day- earliest hit for the search string "fountain pen" is actually Samuel Morse's patent for the Telegraph!

The first patent in the Google search tool dealing specifically with fountain pens is from September 11, 1847- Kinda Neat.

September of 1848 gives us a patent with a sac (well, a bulb anyway).

Neat stuff.

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Posted 16 December 2006 - 09:39 AM

Andy for a more organized presentation of the early patents see:
http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/in...showtopic=11388

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Posted 05 February 2008 - 06:55 PM

LMAO! I love the subject line on this post. smile.gif

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 06:05 PM

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 11:11 AM

hello julia here...mcitp testsits really a good search engine.. i also use to get lot of information from it...

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