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(Not bad for a red-headed, green eyed boy from California!)

 

 

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1. I really like that color.

 

2. The bottle shape, box coloration, and the arrow with two circles sure look familiar, don't they?

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1. I really like that color.

 

2. The bottle shape, box coloration, and the arrow with two circles sure look familiar, don't they?

 

Yes, they do. Funny, that. Makes one wonder if nationalization occurred with factories in Viet Nam like it did in China.

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Interesting review! Thanks.

 

The purple tint really makes it pop in your photos.

 

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1. I really like that color.

 

2. The bottle shape, box coloration, and the arrow with two circles sure look familiar, don't they?

 

And the name, Queenk. :D

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Makes one wonder if nationalization occurred with factories in Viet Nam like it did in China.

 

I'm virtually certain it did in the North, at least, not long after Ho Chi Minh rose to power. It's clear why that ink isn't exported, anyway; they'd have to completely redesign the label to avoid trademark violation in North America or Europe...

 

Very interesting color for a "blue" ink, though. One wonders if they don't have just one mixing barrel and one color carries over a little into the next batch? :ltcapd:

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Makes one wonder if nationalization occurred with factories in Viet Nam like it did in China.

 

I'm virtually certain it did in the North, at least, not long after Ho Chi Minh rose to power. It's clear why that ink isn't exported, anyway; they'd have to completely redesign the label to avoid trademark violation in North America or Europe...

 

Very interesting color for a "blue" ink, though. One wonders if they don't have just one mixing barrel and one color carries over a little into the next batch? :ltcapd:

 

That was another thought I had: Do you think domestic companies initially copied recognizable trademarks to keep the appearance up for buyers? It is possible that the similarities to Quink were intentionally stolen for a then-new product as opposed to a carry-over from a more capitalist era. I would be interested to know if Parker was ever manufacturing in Viet Nam.

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That was another thought I had: Do you think domestic companies initially copied recognizable trademarks to keep the appearance up for buyers? It is possible that the similarities to Quink were intentionally stolen for a then-new product as opposed to a carry-over from a more capitalist era. I would be interested to know if Parker was ever manufacturing in Viet Nam.

 

The whole reason for trademark protection in law is to prevent one company from copying another's logos, product names, labeling, etc. to "keep up the appearance for buyers" -- and steal them. International trademark law, however, has typically not reached into communist regimes until they started to "open up" to the rest of the world; the Soviet Union's camera industry (with which I'm familiar) copied both the original roll-film and later pack-film Polaroid cameras (without, however, ever managing to produce a domestic film for them that was usable), as well as copying very faithfully the Minolta 16 subminiature camera before wreaking three generations of improvements on the design (even as Minolta was improving that design in entirely different directions). And this doesn't even mention the Leica, Zeiss, and Voigtlander cameras they copied after WWII, in a few cases by physically carting the entire factory with its workers to Russia -- those, however, were "legal" as war reparations.

 

Back to the topic, though -- even if this Queen ink was a new product under the North Vietnamese communist regime as opposed to a carry-over from a Parker factory during the French colonial period, it's virtually certain that copying the Parker trademarks was intentional in either case. Vietnamese "Coke" was made for many years in copied bottles with poorly-copied flavoring, after a Coca-Cola bottling plant was nationalized -- no reason Quink might not have been made the same way. The French lost Indochina (as they called it) in the mid-1950s -- Quink was probably a popular product, and it was surely more cost effective to make it locally (before the French were pushed out) than to import it. No, I don't know for certain that this was the case -- but it seems very likely.

 

Still -- is it good ink? If so, the factory could probably bring in some nice hard currency if they'll redesign their packaging and start exporting; look at Americans lining up for J. Herbin and Diamine.

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That was another thought I had: Do you think domestic companies initially copied recognizable trademarks to keep the appearance up for buyers? It is possible that the similarities to Quink were intentionally stolen for a then-new product as opposed to a carry-over from a more capitalist era. I would be interested to know if Parker was ever manufacturing in Viet Nam.

 

The whole reason for trademark protection in law is to prevent one company from copying another's logos, product names, labeling, etc. to "keep up the appearance for buyers" -- and steal them. International trademark law, however, has typically not reached into communist regimes until they started to "open up" to the rest of the world; the Soviet Union's camera industry (with which I'm familiar) copied both the original roll-film and later pack-film Polaroid cameras (without, however, ever managing to produce a domestic film for them that was usable), as well as copying very faithfully the Minolta 16 subminiature camera before wreaking three generations of improvements on the design (even as Minolta was improving that design in entirely different directions). And this doesn't even mention the Leica, Zeiss, and Voigtlander cameras they copied after WWII, in a few cases by physically carting the entire factory with its workers to Russia -- those, however, were "legal" as war reparations.

 

Back to the topic, though -- even if this Queen ink was a new product under the North Vietnamese communist regime as opposed to a carry-over from a Parker factory during the French colonial period, it's virtually certain that copying the Parker trademarks was intentional in either case. Vietnamese "Coke" was made for many years in copied bottles with poorly-copied flavoring, after a Coca-Cola bottling plant was nationalized -- no reason Quink might not have been made the same way. The French lost Indochina (as they called it) in the mid-1950s -- Quink was probably a popular product, and it was surely more cost effective to make it locally (before the French were pushed out) than to import it. No, I don't know for certain that this was the case -- but it seems very likely.

 

Still -- is it good ink? If so, the factory could probably bring in some nice hard currency if they'll redesign their packaging and start exporting; look at Americans lining up for J. Herbin and Diamine.

 

Thank you. Very good points. I haven't been using it regularly, but the little bit I have, it seems to be good ink. I have tried searching several times (and even had a friend search in Vietnamese), and was able to find it on the web.

 

I agree, if they are producing a quality product they should capitalize on it.

 

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