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Hi grabb77,

 

Only with "vintage" CF.

 

The holes in the international shorts are wider than in modern Waterman cartridges, so the potential for leakage when using international shorts in the modern Watermans makes it a risky proposal.

 

The CF has a wider nipple, and it works ok, just that the cartridge may be a little loose in the section and barrel. A piece of teflon, single layer, not covering the lower tapering end will do wonders. Oh, and most will fit a Pelikan converter the same way: a single teflon layer around the lower end. No more rattling, as with the CF converters :D.

 

HTH, warm regards, Wim

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Sorry for hijacking this thread (think there's no need to create another one), but are Parker and Waterman cartdriges the same (aka interchangeable)? Do they use the same system? TY

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Hi Maja,

AFAIK Waterman and Parker cartridges are not the same. Parker and Aurora cartridges are are interchangeable.

 

 

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Hi maia,

 

No, they´re not the same, hence I wouldn´t recommend interchanging them. The shape isn´t the same, and neither is the nipple receptacle part.

 

Here is a link to the converter thread, which shows close-up pictures of the corresponding converters:

Converter topic with pics

The converter ends are shaped the same as the cartridges.

 

HTH, warm regards, Wim

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I tried using a standard short cartridge in my Waterman Hemisphere, and stuck a second one in the body, the way I do with most pens. I now have an empty (I pierced it, trying to get it out) ink cartridge permanently stuck in my Hemisphere, as far as I can tell.

 

Grump grump grump.

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Hi Velma,

 

Why not try a hook needle (sp?) to get it out? It might just work... :D

 

Warm regards, Wim

 

edit: I think it is called a crochet needle or something?

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I tried using a standard short cartridge in my Waterman Hemisphere, and stuck a second one in the body, the way I do with most pens. I now have an empty (I pierced it, trying to get it out) ink cartridge permanently stuck in my Hemisphere, as far as I can tell.

 

Grump grump grump.

Sorry but didn't quite understand: is the cartridge you had on the barrel (reserve) stuck or the one in use? :doh:

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I tried using a standard short cartridge in my Waterman Hemisphere, and stuck a second one in the body, the way I do with most pens. I now have an empty (I pierced it, trying to get it out) ink cartridge permanently stuck in my Hemisphere, as far as I can tell.

 

Grump grump grump.

Sorry but didn't quite understand: is the cartridge you had on the barrel (reserve) stuck or the one in use? :doh:

Hi Maia,

 

I am not Velma, but it is the spare one.

 

Waterman cartridges are narrower in the center than two international shorts base to base on top of each other, and that may cause problems with many, especially older, Waterman c/c pens, and some of the narrower or bronze barrel modern ones (although not all CFs).

 

I tried this once, a long time ago, but fortunately I was used to sticking a cartridge in the section and puncturing the seal by pressing it down by hand, rather than driving it home by screwing the barrel back on, with both cartridges in already. I am (almost) sure that is what happened to Velma. Because I used the other method, I noticed the second cartridge didn't go in deep enough...

 

Warm regards, Wim

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I tried this once, a long time ago, but fortunately I was used to sticking a cartridge in the section and puncturing the seal by pressing it down by hand, rather than driving it home by screwing the barrel back on, with both cartridges in already. I am (almost) sure that is what happened to Velma. Because I used the other method, I noticed the second cartridge didn't go in deep enough...

Bingo! That's exactly what I did. And unfortunately, I don't own a crochet hook.... but I'll bet one of my coworkers does! Thank you!

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I tried using a standard short cartridge in my Waterman Hemisphere, and stuck a second one in the body, the way I do with most pens. I now have an empty (I pierced it, trying to get it out) ink cartridge permanently stuck in my Hemisphere, as far as I can tell.

 

Grump grump grump.

Yup, this happens with most Waterman pens. They are carefully designed not to take generic internationals. However, some of the cheapies, in which they haven't put in a brass sleeve, do take internationals, e.g. the Kultur and some of their school pens. :angry:

 

Michael

 

who hopes digging the empty one out won't take too long

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:bonk:

Those short cartridges are made for the LeLady pens, which are no longer in production. They also fit the Ici et La. LeLady pens were short like the Ici :eureka:

 

 

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Hi,

 

The newer Ici et La pens have a sleeve that prevents them from taking the short cartridges. They can only take Waterman long cartridges or converters now.

 

I have two and really like them. :)

 

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