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#1 s_t_e_v_e

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 11:54

Hi!

Here are a few Indian ebonite hand made pens. All eyedroppers. The brown one has a hooded nib. The green one is of the size of a Pelikan M800 or maybe a M1000.
The first pic has a waterman Hemisphere for size reference.




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Posted 02 October 2007 - 13:12

QUOTE(s_t_e_v_e @ Oct 2 2007, 11:54 AM) View Post
Hi!

Here are a few Indian ebonite hand made pens. All eyedroppers. The brown one has a hooded nib. The green one is of the size of a Pelikan M800 or maybe a M1000.
The first pic has a waterman Hemisphere for size reference.




Regards,
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Steve,

Just doing some research on the internet, I learnt that Ratnam Pens have a rich history. Where did you buy these pens in Bombay and how much did they cost in Indian Rupees?

Thanks

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 13:35

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Steve,

Just doing some research on the internet, I learnt that Ratnam Pens have a rich history. Where did you buy these pens in Bombay and how much did they cost in Indian Rupees?

Thanks


Hi,

I ordered these pens straight from the manufacturer. That's the only way to get them. You can order for steel nibs (not made by Ratnam) or for a 14k gold nib which are hand crafted by Ratnam. The green one in the pic is the 302 model, the black one is the 32 and the brown one is the 21.
Here's their price list:


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Posted 02 October 2007 - 15:19

That works out to about US $45 for the 32 with a gold nib and US $38 for the 21. I wonder if they ship overseas.

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Edited by Johnny Appleseed, 02 October 2007 - 15:20.

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 16:11

No! No! No! I have been doing so well, not buying pens willy nilly, not really buying any at all for a while. Then the Dallas Pen Show, and I bought a few, just a few. Now I find out about these ebonite pens with gold nibs for $32. crybaby.gif crybaby.gif crybaby.gif crybaby.gif I almost hope they don't ship to the US, or at least not to my address in Texas.
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Posted 02 October 2007 - 17:19

Some more pics to make it more tempting thumbup.gif !

The 302:


The 21 below has a smooth XF nib! I dont like XF though.....


The 32:

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 18:35

Steve,

Thanks for providing all the pics & info about these pens. I am curious - how would you rate these pens as compared to a Western 14k nibbed pen? How do you think the quality compares to a middle or high level Western name brand pen? (By Western, I mean pens made in Western countries)

Edited by sharkfin, 02 October 2007 - 18:36.


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Posted 02 October 2007 - 19:17

Steve,
Does the 21 come in any other size nib....
Also what is the filling system
Also can you post a link to the company website so we can see if we can order here in the US...

Thanks

Edited by OldGriz, 02 October 2007 - 19:18.

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 20:09

Is there a website where these pens are listed/featured by this company? I've tried doing searches but they don't turn up anything.

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Posted 03 October 2007 - 16:26

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Steve,

Thanks for providing all the pics & info about these pens. I am curious - how would you rate these pens as compared to a Western 14k nibbed pen? How do you think the quality compares to a middle or high level Western name brand pen? (By Western, I mean pens made in Western countries)


Hi sharkfin,

What I have are all steel nibs. So I can't comment on the gold ones. The steel nibs are ok and come only in fine (the 21 puts lines of width equivalent to those put by a Japanese fine). However, the 14k gold nibs are made in-house as per your request but I don't think they make stubs. These gold nibs are quite famous among pen aficionados in India. In their catalogue the gold nibs look good. I guess they would be good to write with too.

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Posted 03 October 2007 - 17:14

Hey I am in India!

How to get in touch with them?

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Posted 03 October 2007 - 17:22

OMG
The price is steal!

1 USD ~ 40 Rupees.
You can workout the rest yourself if that price table holds true ...

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Posted 03 October 2007 - 17:33

QUOTE(OldGriz @ Oct 2 2007, 07:17 PM) View Post
Steve,
Does the 21 come in any other size nib....
Also what is the filling system
Also can you post a link to the company website so we can see if we can order here in the US...

Thanks



Hi OldGriz,

All pens are eyedrop fillers (so huge capacity thumbup.gif ). The company is not on the net. I can give you their phone no and the contact person's name so that you can ask them directly as to what all they have and the shipping info too.

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Posted 03 October 2007 - 17:58

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Hey I am in India!

How to get in touch with them?


Hi,

Their contact no is 91 0883 2498782 and the contact person is Mr. Ramanamurthy (pronounced as Ram-ana-moorty).
Their address is
Ratnam Pen Works,
10-7-18, Fort Gate,
Rajahmundry - 533101
Andhra Pradesh, India.

Regards,
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Posted 04 October 2007 - 13:48

QUOTE(s_t_e_v_e @ Oct 3 2007, 01:58 PM) View Post
QUOTE(alpha1 @ Oct 3 2007, 05:14 PM) View Post
Hey I am in India!

How to get in touch with them?


Hi,

Their contact no is 91 0883 2498782 and the contact person is Mr. Ramanamurthy (pronounced as Ram-ana-moorty).
Their address is
Ratnam Pen Works,
10-7-18, Fort Gate,
Rajahmundry - 533101
Andhra Pradesh, India.

Regards,
Steve.


Thanks Steve, but calling India is not cost effective from the US for me...
Do they by chance have an email address....
Or would you see what shipping would be and purchase a pen and ship to me....
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Posted 04 October 2007 - 16:32

QUOTE(s_t_e_v_e @ Oct 3 2007, 11:28 PM) View Post
QUOTE(alpha1 @ Oct 3 2007, 05:14 PM) View Post
Hey I am in India!

How to get in touch with them?


Hi,

Their contact no is 91 0883 2498782 and the contact person is Mr. Ramanamurthy (pronounced as Ram-ana-moorty).
Their address is
Ratnam Pen Works,
10-7-18, Fort Gate,
Rajahmundry - 533101
Andhra Pradesh, India.

Regards,
Steve.


Noted.

Thanks S t e v e !


BTW I am from India, biggrin.gif and I know the problem that Indian names are for ppl from abroad.


PS: How are the Wality/Airmail and Guider FPs?
Compared to Ratnam ... ?



Oh BTW, M.K. Gandhi was supposed to use this fountain pen ...

Edited by alpha1, 04 October 2007 - 16:39.


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Posted 04 October 2007 - 17:30

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QUOTE(alpha1 @ Oct 3 2007, 05:14 PM) View Post
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How to get in touch with them?


Hi,

Their contact no is 91 0883 2498782 and the contact person is Mr. Ramanamurthy (pronounced as Ram-ana-moorty).
Their address is
Ratnam Pen Works,
10-7-18, Fort Gate,
Rajahmundry - 533101
Andhra Pradesh, India.

Regards,
Steve.


I will write them for a catalog and shipping info and share the results when I get them (though if anyone on FPN from India were to put together an order and ship it to us all - then count me in!)

Here is a thread on ebonite pens by Brahmin, which may be found on ebay sold by the seller Maplume. I have two of these, and I am very pleased, though I did stub one of the nibs and replaced another with a 1930s Waterman semi-flex nib. Be sure to follow the link Antonios includes to a huge double-ended version he has.
Brahman Ebonite, A Surprising Find

The Guider Pen Company is another company that makes ebonite pens in India. Guider Pen Company I have not seen any of their pens.

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Posted 04 October 2007 - 18:55

If they are shipping/selling anything to the US in the near future, I'd be interested as well (provided it doesn't become overly expensive with shipping and all). I like that medium-sized all-black hard rubber pen with the gold trim.




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Posted 06 October 2007 - 05:21

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Hey I am in India!

How to get in touch with them?


Hi,

Their contact no is 91 0883 2498782 and the contact person is Mr. Ramanamurthy (pronounced as Ram-ana-moorty).
Their address is
Ratnam Pen Works,
10-7-18, Fort Gate,
Rajahmundry - 533101
Andhra Pradesh, India.

Regards,
Steve.


Thanks Steve, but calling India is not cost effective from the US for me...
Do they by chance have an email address....
Or would you see what shipping would be and purchase a pen and ship to me....



Hi Tom,

They can be contacted only by phone or by post. They haven't provided any e-mail id in any of their correspondence with me.
Regarding me shipping the pen to you guys in US, I can do that. But I would be moving to the US to do my graduation in fall 2008 i.e. August 2008. So I could get the ones you want and ship it locally from the US!!!
How do you want me to do it???


If someone else also wants these pens, let me know, so that I can get them with me when I come to the US.

Regards,
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Posted 06 October 2007 - 05:37

Fascinating. I like what I'm seeing. I also am a fan of eyedroppers so this is looking real good.

Some research turned up the fact that Gandhi was more than casually involved in the founding of this pen company:


Hyderabad: When entrepreneur M V Ratnam met Mahatma Gandhi at a public meeting in Vijaywada in 1922, Gandhi asked him to make something that would be of use to the people.
Once Ratnam came to know that Gandhi on principle did not write with foreign-made pens, he decided to manufacture swadeshi pens.
It took almost a decade for the first Indian pen to take shape, but it was worth the wait for the compliment came from the Mahatma himself.
Says, K V Proprietor, Ratnam & Sons, Ramana Murthy, "In 1933 when Mahatma Gandhi was given a pen he rejected it because it was a foreign one. Then in 1934 when Sri Kumarappa of All India Industries Association visited our unit and closely examined the manufacturing and took one for Gandhiji. The Mahatma surprised us by writing to us after using the pen for a while."
From then on, Ratnam pens became popular with a number of leaders including Jawaharlal Nehru.
Today the company boasts of users of all ages and from all walks of life, from fourth graders to working professionals to bureaucrats. They say once you hold a Ratnam pen, you'll never hold anything else.
Says Turab Hussain, who uses Ratnam Pens, "I have been using this pen for last 50 years. They are world quality pens and are equal to any imported pen. They can compete easily with Parker or Sheaffer pens."
M V Ratnam who was fondly called Pennula Tathayya (the grandfather of pens) designed ebonite, silver, gold and even diamond studded pens.
Unfortunately, Gen-X knows little about the very special history of Ratnam pens that will soon be celebrating its 75th year.

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Posted 06 October 2007 - 13:01

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Hey I am in India!

How to get in touch with them?


Hi,

Their contact no is 91 0883 2498782 and the contact person is Mr. Ramanamurthy (pronounced as Ram-ana-moorty).
Their address is
Ratnam Pen Works,
10-7-18, Fort Gate,
Rajahmundry - 533101
Andhra Pradesh, India.

Regards,
Steve.


Thanks Steve, but calling India is not cost effective from the US for me...
Do they by chance have an email address....
Or would you see what shipping would be and purchase a pen and ship to me....



Hi Tom,

They can be contacted only by phone or by post. They haven't provided any e-mail id in any of their correspondence with me.
Regarding me shipping the pen to you guys in US, I can do that. But I would be moving to the US to do my graduation in fall 2008 i.e. August 2008. So I could get the ones you want and ship it locally from the US!!!
How do you want me to do it???


If someone else also wants these pens, let me know, so that I can get them with me when I come to the US.

Regards,
Steve.


I am in absolutely no hurry... so waiting until you come to the US would not bother me at all.... It's not like I NEED another pen blush.gif
I think the one I am most interested in is the 21 with a fine gold nib (if it writes like a US fine)... that is the one with the hooded nib if I am not mistaken...
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Posted 07 October 2007 - 18:04

I like that black rubber one in the picture (32 is it?), with a gold medium nib. It's got an old-style look for sure.

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Posted 07 October 2007 - 18:19

I sent an email to both Guider and Wality, and none have responded (its 4-5 days now).

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Posted 07 October 2007 - 19:16

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Now I find out about these ebonite pens with gold nibs for $32.


It just saws the true cost of gold nibs smile.gif
So next time that you get a quote of a gold nib upgrade for $90 think about it sick.gif
With $32 you can get a gold nib + a pen.
Anybody can help us put a mass order and make an FPN pen out of them?
We can have them engraved of center also for the fun of it roflmho.gifwink.gif

Edited by antoniosz, 07 October 2007 - 19:22.


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Hey I am in India!

How to get in touch with them?


Hi,

Their contact no is 91 0883 2498782 and the contact person is Mr. Ramanamurthy (pronounced as Ram-ana-moorty).
Their address is
Ratnam Pen Works,
10-7-18, Fort Gate,
Rajahmundry - 533101
Andhra Pradesh, India.

Regards,
Steve.


Thanks Steve, but calling India is not cost effective from the US for me...
Do they by chance have an email address....
Or would you see what shipping would be and purchase a pen and ship to me....



Hi Tom,

They can be contacted only by phone or by post. They haven't provided any e-mail id in any of their correspondence with me.
Regarding me shipping the pen to you guys in US, I can do that. But I would be moving to the US to do my graduation in fall 2008 i.e. August 2008. So I could get the ones you want and ship it locally from the US!!!
How do you want me to do it???


If someone else also wants these pens, let me know, so that I can get them with me when I come to the US.

Regards,
Steve.


Steve, I would be interested in aquiring a couple of these pens. If you are serious about ordering and shipping, I would be willing to be the shipment point in the US. You could take orders and have people pay you online, you could buy them and ship them to me in bulk and I could subdivide the orders and ship them to the others in US who ordered from you. I'm pretty sure it would be cheaper that way and not much longer. Of course, I'd be even happier if someone else in the US would do this, but I'm willing to volunteer.

Someone else could do the same thing if enough people were interested in Europe or Canada or Australia. Shipping from me to US addresses for 1-6 pens would be about $5.00 US.

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Posted 08 October 2007 - 16:43

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I sent an email to both Guider and Wality, and none have responded (its 4-5 days now).


Hey call the guys at Guider and speak to them..... Even I sent them e-mails but they seem to pay no heed to e-mails. Wality is quite readily available in local shops. Try any good local pen shop and you should be able to find it!
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Hey I am in India!

How to get in touch with them?


Hi,

Their contact no is 91 0883 2498782 and the contact person is Mr. Ramanamurthy (pronounced as Ram-ana-moorty).
Their address is
Ratnam Pen Works,
10-7-18, Fort Gate,
Rajahmundry - 533101
Andhra Pradesh, India.

Regards,
Steve.


Thanks Steve, but calling India is not cost effective from the US for me...
Do they by chance have an email address....
Or would you see what shipping would be and purchase a pen and ship to me....



Hi Tom,

They can be contacted only by phone or by post. They haven't provided any e-mail id in any of their correspondence with me.
Regarding me shipping the pen to you guys in US, I can do that. But I would be moving to the US to do my graduation in fall 2008 i.e. August 2008. So I could get the ones you want and ship it locally from the US!!!
How do you want me to do it???


If someone else also wants these pens, let me know, so that I can get them with me when I come to the US.

Regards,
Steve.


Steve, I would be interested in aquiring a couple of these pens. If you are serious about ordering and shipping, I would be willing to be the shipment point in the US. You could take orders and have people pay you online, you could buy them and ship them to me in bulk and I could subdivide the orders and ship them to the others in US who ordered from you. I'm pretty sure it would be cheaper that way and not much longer. Of course, I'd be even happier if someone else in the US would do this, but I'm willing to volunteer.

Someone else could do the same thing if enough people were interested in Europe or Canada or Australia. Shipping from me to US addresses for 1-6 pens would be about $5.00 US.

Andy



I would definately be into that.

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Posted 09 October 2007 - 13:42

Folks, my friend here in Ann Arbor, Michigan is a Indian guy from Hyderabad, which is not too far away from the city where the Ratnam Pen co is located it. I could ask if his dad might be willing to buy up a bunch of pens and ship them to Ann Arbor,and then we could ship them to all interested parties?
Would you all want me to ask my friend if his dad is interested ?
please send me PMs to let me know.
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Posted 09 October 2007 - 14:05

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Now I find out about these ebonite pens with gold nibs for $32.


It just saws the true cost of gold nibs smile.gif
So next time that you get a quote of a gold nib upgrade for $90 think about it sick.gif
With $32 you can get a gold nib + a pen.
Anybody can help us put a mass order and make an FPN pen out of them?
We can have them engraved of center also for the fun of it roflmho.gifwink.gif

That cost includes the cost of labor too.
Which is more significant in US/Europe.


In India - the labor cost would be INR 10-100 per hour. That works out to be USD 0.25-2.5 per hour.

You know anyone who is willing to work for that low pay in the developed world? biggrin.gif
If so, then you can beat India and China at their own game.


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Posted 09 October 2007 - 14:07

PS: that labor cost was for skilled labor, for unskilled it will dip 10 times lower.