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#1 jicaino

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Posted 27 July 2007 - 03:48

Hey guys

can yu refer me to a site/page/book where I can learn about the complex Osmia filling mechanism? I managed to take it appart without destroying nothing but all the "guts" that seals (I guess that sealed) are dust now. I think it would be wuite similar to dunn's... but I'd like some expert advice. If tools needs to be fabbricated I'm up to.

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#2 Oxonian

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Posted 27 July 2007 - 09:30

Hi,
Looking at some of your previous posts you would have no trouble with the piston or button fillers so I assume you have one of the vacuum diaphragm fillers similar to the Parker Vacumatic. I personally have never got my hands on one of these so I can't help directly, piston fillers I have several and can help a little there and the button fillers were essentially Osmia made Parker Duofolds

The only person I can think of who is likely to have a working knowledge of and perhaps documentation for the vacuum diaphragm filler is FPN member Kaweco, who is a fount of information on German pens.

You might be able to find the patent drawings for the filler mechanism, FPN member rhr is the patent specialist and knows where and how to find them, there are several threads in Pen History by him and others that give some ideas for patent searches.

Sorry not to be of more help, best of luck,

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#3 jicaino

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Posted 27 July 2007 - 13:30

Thanks! this is a starter, big help... I have searched to no avail... this is an OSMIA PROGRESS and I venture a guess, the filler system might have worked in similar fashion to that of the Dunn Penn. So far I have a blind cap, attached to a slotted HR sleeve that goes thru a collar with a pin wich doesn't allow it to rotate. In the inner barrel all other stuff was turned into gunky dust.
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 20:09

Hi,

Osmia got lots of different filling mechanisms, depends on the type of you FP i can tell you what system it is and if it possible to repair it.

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#5 jicaino

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Posted 07 August 2008 - 04:21

Hey humphrey

It's an OSMIA PROGRESS 160
The filler has one blind cap that extends a HR tube that has a keyway in it about the whole lenght of the tube. It's screwed on the blindcap and has a total lenght of about 4 mm. The section has a long breather tube hence my wild guess that the filler could have looked (and functioned) in a similar way to the Dunn Pen. It looked like some gasket was missing and it had the remains of the dead thing inside the barrel. Not osified latex so I guess no diaphragm/sac here. More like rubber, cork, something like that.
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Posted 07 August 2008 - 08:00

Hi JIC,

Your description sounds like the same filler used in Dunn pens, but I've never seen an Osmia like this.

If it is like a Dunn, all there is to it is the HR tube and the breather. The bits left behind would be the remains of a cork ring that sealed around the outside of the HR tube at the end of the barrel. On Dunn pens, you have to remove the HR tube, usually by pressing out a pin in the blind cap that attaches the blind cap to the tube. Once the tube is out (comes out the front of the pen after the section and blind cap have been removed), there will be a HR washer at the end of the barrel. Under that is where the cork seal goes.

Hope this helps!

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Posted 07 August 2008 - 22:19

Ok so somebody tried to fiddle with the filler and disintegrated some parts. I'll come up with something now that I've received your comments guys, big thanks!
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Posted 08 August 2008 - 12:13

Hi Juan,
Attached a picture showing the Osmia progress filling system ,coming from a Dutch pen repair book.
I hope this is helpfull for you
Regards, Francis



http://i62.photobuck...miaprogress.jpg

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 22:51

dead on francis, you're the man! thanks.
Juan
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#10 Tom Pike

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 23:13

So, it's basically like a Parker Vacumatic filler? huh.gif


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QUOTE (fountainbel @ Aug 8 2008, 05:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Juan,
Attached a picture showing the Osmia progress filling system ,coming from a Dutch pen repair book.
I hope this is helpfull for you
Regards, Francis



http://i62.photobuck...miaprogress.jpg



#11 jicaino

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 23:25

with no ill conceived springs to rust or pellet holder to bend out of shape.
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Posted 08 January 2012 - 14:25

Hello

i have this
Osmia Supra Progress

if i got it right, it uses a rubber membrane to suck the ink. Is there any way to find this membrane as a supply? Like Vacumatic membranes?

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on the Dutch manual picture it seems rather similar to Vacumatic rubber membrane..

Thank you for some informations.

Edited by Khufu, 08 January 2012 - 14:28.


#13 fountainbel

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 15:17

Yes, you can use the Vacumatic diafragm without any problem ( best the larger “major” version)

Francis



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Posted 08 January 2012 - 16:24

Yes, you can use the Vacumatic diafragm without any problem ( best the larger “major” version)

Francis


Thank you very much for info!
I cannot wait until this pen will be operational again. Design and quality are great:)