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Poll: Like I said, which pen give the most bang for the buck? (75 member(s) have cast votes)

Like I said, which pen give the most bang for the buck?

  1. Montegrappa Extra (1 votes [1.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.33%

  2. Montblanc 146 (4 votes [5.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.33%

  3. Montblanc 149 (3 votes [4.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.00%

  4. Pelikan M800's (incl. LE) (23 votes [30.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.67%

  5. Visconti Wall Street LE's (2 votes [2.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.67%

  6. Omas Paragons (incl. celluloid) (9 votes [12.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.00%

  7. Waterman Exceptions (4 votes [5.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.33%

  8. Waterman Edsons (2 votes [2.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.67%

  9. Parker Duofold Centennials (6 votes [8.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.00%

  10. Conway Stewart Churchills (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  11. Conway Stewart 100's (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  12. Dupont Orpheo/Olympios (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  13. Danitrio Tamenuri ED (2 votes [2.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.67%

  14. Nakaya Whatever (5 votes [6.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.67%

  15. Sheaffer Legacy (14 votes [18.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 18.67%

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#1 eric.zamir

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Posted 20 February 2007 - 22:30

In the sense that one feels their money was well spent - esthetics, workmanship, writing qualities, ergonomics, customer service.
Still seeking the One Pen to Rule Them All...

#2 handlebar

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Posted 20 February 2007 - 23:12

For me,Omas all the way.

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Posted 20 February 2007 - 23:14

If these are just expensive fountain pens, then my answer would be: "I have no earthly clue." If it is ANY fountain pen, I will go with a Lamy Safari. That is the SMOOTHEST fountain pen I have writen with. I have a medium nib on it, though I'd like a fine. I hear they are toothy, though...

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#4 alvarez57

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 00:48

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I will agree here with KCat, Pelikans are very, very reliable in my experience and I have NOT payed big bucks for them ( I own 4). smile.gif

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#5 davidmigl

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 01:50

To be purely pedantic, wouldn't something like a $5 Hero 329 be the best "value?"
Look at it this way: for $5, you get a pen that writes. What's a $200 Pelikan going to do, write literally forty times better?

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But realistically, the best "values" would probably be the lower-end models that write really well, like the Safari, Phileas, M200, etc.

But this poll seems to indicate an approximately $200 or so price range. I don't own any pens in that range, so i can't comment.

#6 goodguy

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 01:54

I second the Omas Paragon,it is simply a fantastic pen for a resonable price (old style).Mine cost 160$ and it is the best writer ever.
Respect to all

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 02:17

I voted for the Pelikan, being one of the cheeper ones. Although I think that most of the pens listed are worth their high price tags.

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 03:13

Bang for the buck: Waterman Phileas. The quality is good, but the price is rock bottom for a decent pen. You get a reliable and solid writer with a good convertor or cartridge capability, but you pay little.

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 03:14

QUOTE (eric.zamir @ Feb 20 2007, 05:30 PM)
In the sense that one feels their money was well spent - esthetics, workmanship, writing qualities, ergonomics, customer service.

This might be one poll that would have better created as a thread. ohmy.gif

Actually I think that something similar to this is already in writing instrument's forum. biggrin.gif

#10 alvarez57

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 03:19

QUOTE (davidmigl @ Feb 21 2007, 01:50 AM)
To be purely pedantic, wouldn't something like a $5 Hero 329 be the best "value?"
Look at it this way: for $5, you get a pen that writes. What's a $200 Pelikan going to do, write literally forty times better?

[/pedantry]

But realistically, the best "values" would probably be the lower-end models that write really well, like the Safari, Phileas, M200, etc.

But this poll seems to indicate an approximately $200 or so price range. I don't own any pens in that range, so i can't comment.

David:
Not necessarily you have to pay more than $200 to own a good pen. Omas, granted, they're way beyond that price (that's why I haven't bought any lately, being my cut-off line 200$). I got a Platinum President, which is a moderately-sized pen for much less than $200 and I like how ět writes, so the same with the Marlen Basilea and a whole bunch of other pens I've bought, all of'em gold-nibbed.
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Posted 21 February 2007 - 03:26

Considering that the Legacy can be purchased for much less than any of the others (often for less than $100), the wonderful inlaid nibs, and the range of nibs available (F, M, B, S, others?) it's hard to beat, imho!
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#12 two2tone

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 06:06

For me the best value was the Waterman Phileas for $9.95 as a kit with cartridges, converter and bottle of ink. Best writing and "feel good" pen was the Waterman Carene on sale for $112.50.



#13 georges zaslavsky

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 07:20

Hard to tell for me.
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Posted 21 February 2007 - 11:20

None of the above if purchased new.

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Posted 21 February 2007 - 12:26

Of these upper end pens, the Sheaffer Legacy series is right in there, in my opinion, garnering 4 and 5 scores in each of your categories. I've handled and toyed with the idea of buying most of the pens on the list, but life seemed to get in the way, most of the time...

It is gonna be VERY interesting to see how this one plays out, since it is a real run-off between the high end stuff.





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Posted 22 February 2007 - 05:19

No one mentioned the Parker "51"?

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 10:20

QUOTE (ChickenGod @ Feb 22 2007, 05:19 AM)
No one mentioned the Parker "51"?

I think Eric wanted to know only from a list of new pens and not vintage pens.

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Posted 23 February 2007 - 11:51

QUOTE (ChickenGod @ Feb 21 2007, 09:19 PM)
No one mentioned the Parker "51"?

Last year, during the NCAA playoffs, somebody on another pensite did a March Madness Pen Thing, similar to the Bassetball March Madness.

The initial round was nominations for the 64 first round slots, a random draw for pairings and voting from there. Mix of vintage and modern. Really quite fun. Problem is, I don't fully recollect which pen won...memory serves that it was the 51 in a landslide over ???.

Anybody else remember the site and the outcome..?

#19 Bill

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Posted 24 February 2007 - 01:46

QUOTE (paircon01 @ Feb 23 2007, 06:51 AM)
Last year, during the NCAA playoffs, somebody on another pensite did a March Madness Pen Thing, similar to the Bassetball March Madness.

...I don't fully recollect which pen won...memory serves that it was the 51 in a landslide over ???.

Anybody else remember the site and the outcome..?

The "51" defeated the M800 in the final.

I believe there were posts on FPN that linked to it.

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Posted 24 February 2007 - 04:10

For me, most bang FOR THE BUCK is my older Hero 616. Not my smoothest writer, but reasonably so, guts like a 51 (I added the Aero-style bleeder hole in the breather tube), and flows like a fire hose, never skips or starts hard (which is why my Hero 329 lost out).
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#21 georges zaslavsky

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 08:39

QUOTE (rimmerjar @ Feb 21 2007, 11:20 AM)
None of the above if purchased new.

True, buying used is always a good thing and you can find bargains at a quite reasonable price.
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Posted 25 February 2007 - 10:57

QUOTE (eric.zamir @ Feb 20 2007, 02:30 PM)
In the sense that one feels their money was well spent - esthetics, workmanship, writing qualities, ergonomics, customer service.

Difficult question, given that there is a limited choice of models in your list. Sheaffer pens offer very good value for money, but they can't compete with the very best, so it depends on what you're after.

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 12:12

QUOTE (Bill @ Feb 23 2007, 05:46 PM)
The "51" defeated the M800 in the final.

I believe there were posts on FPN that linked to it.

Bill

Bill...Thanks, I just couldn't remember the final pair.

I for one, am finding the voting and out come of this poll VERY INTERESTING, from a number of perspectives...

One question...what is the most expensive and least expensive pen in the list. The Paragon comes in at about $1000, right?

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 14:53

QUOTE (paircon01 @ Feb 25 2007, 12:12 PM)
QUOTE (Bill @ Feb 23 2007, 05:46 PM)
The "51" defeated the M800 in the final.

I believe there were posts on FPN that linked to it.

Bill

Bill...Thanks, I just couldn't remember the final pair.

I for one, am finding the voting and out come of this poll VERY INTERESTING, from a number of perspectives...

One question...what is the most expensive and least expensive pen in the list. The Paragon comes in at about $1000, right?

Bill

Hi Bill

It depends which version of the Arte Italiana Paragon you are chosing, if it is the Arco you are going to pay 860€ and if it is the classic black version you are going to pay 565€. Also a Burkina 360 costs 840€. I would advise to purchase Omas in used condition.

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 20:58

I voted for Pelikan M800. To be fair though I probably shouldn't have voted at all because I haven't even seen the others, except for the Montblanc. I guess there won't be many here that have owned the entire list and maybe most respondents haven't owned many.

The reason I voted M800 is that it is my favourite pen. Love it! It feels big, sturdy and luxurious and the nib is an absolute joy (see avatar!) It's competition on my desk consists of a Lamy 2000, a Pelikan M215, a reconditioned Parker 51, a vintage 1961 Parker duofold and a humble Parker Jotter. The M800 was the most expensive and is the one I enjoy the most.


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Posted 25 February 2007 - 21:42

QUOTE (georges zaslavsky @ Feb 25 2007, 06:53 AM)
Hi Bill

It depends which version of the Arte Italiana Paragon you are chosing, if it is the Arco you are going to pay 860€ and if it is the classic black version you are going to pay 565€. Also a Burkina 360 costs 840€. I would advise to purchase Omas in used condition.

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Good Evening, Georges...
(Okay...it is evening--1730 here in the US...midinight or so in Europe...)

xe.com is showing a Euro equal to a bit over US$1.31 right now

So an Arte Italiana is about US$1135, the plain black is about US$750.00 and the Burkina is a touch over US$1100.00.

These are all in the "Peg would kill me" price points...I doubt even the used prices would be much lower...

Bill...who will stick to the odd Legacy and the PFM he has...



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Posted 25 February 2007 - 21:50

QUOTE (southpaw @ Feb 21 2007, 03:26 AM)
Considering that the Legacy can be purchased for much less than any of the others (often for less than $100), the wonderful inlaid nibs, and the range of nibs available (F, M, B, S, others?) it's hard to beat, imho!

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I agree with Michael--plus, none of the pens on this poll fit my idea of bang/buck. The Legacy is the only one I've owned, or will buy.

There are many members on here for whom this is pure fantasy--me included.

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 07:12

QUOTE (paircon01 @ Feb 25 2007, 09:42 PM)

Good Evening, Georges...
(Okay...it is evening--1730 here in the US...midinight or so in Europe...)

xe.com is showing a Euro equal to a bit over US$1.31 right now

So an Arte Italiana is about US$1135, the plain black is about US$750.00 and the Burkina is a touch over US$1100.00.

These are all in the "Peg would kill me" price points...I doubt even the used prices would be much lower...

Bill...who will stick to the odd Legacy and the PFM he has...

Hi Bill

I paid 320€ for my arte italiana last saturday and I baught it in used condition at my favorite penshop. So if you look good places of where to buy used pens you can have better deals than on ebay. This weekend saturday I am going to buy a 360 from Omas in used condition from the same shop.

regards

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