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#1 InKase

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 02:57

Greetings my fellow fountain pen lovers!

Is erasing ink an important issue for you guys?
If so, would you guys be interested in purchasing a product that can erase all inks from all surfaces including multicolored paper?

Thank you,

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#2 Scrawler

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 03:08

Greetings my fellow fountain pen lovers!

Is erasing ink an important issue for you guys?
If so, would you guys be interested in purchasing a product that can erase all inks from all surfaces including multicolored paper?

Thank you,

InKase

How well does that work with HoD? If it does then I definitely want some.

#3 someonesdad

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 03:12

Those of us who have been around a while used ink eradicators decades ago for this, but they disappeared in the 70's or so. The Pirat eradicator is available, but it works with only a few inks (so I've heard).

Personally, I have no need for such a thing, as I want my writing to be permanent. If you were to sell such a product, you've got a lot of testing to do, as there are hundreds of inks on the market. And I would suspect it's going to be hard to remove some inks without damaging the paper.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 03:35

To get out of clothing and bed sheets sure. But off paper, why?
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Posted 10 February 2012 - 05:33

I have my doubts about a product claiming to remove all inks from all papers without destroying the paper. Good luck with say Noodler's Black on newsprint. There are a variety of archival and fraud resistant inks available which were designed to be unerasable and resiste even using harsh chemical bleaches and solvents.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 07:06

Greetings my fellow fountain pen lovers!

Is erasing ink an important issue for you guys?
If so, would you guys be interested in purchasing a product that can erase all inks from all surfaces including multicolored paper?

Thank you,

InKase


We would need a proof of concept, since many of us know that what you suggest is not possible.
With the new FPN rules, now I REALLY don't know what to put in my signature.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 08:34

Fire? Napalm? C4?
They seem to work pretty well for most people.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 10:21

Again?
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Posted 10 February 2012 - 10:50

All inks? I await the showdown between "bulletproof" cleaner and bulletproof ink. My money is Nathan. :thumbup:



Some of us pay extra for ink that can't be eradicated.

#10 Scrawler

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 11:14

All inks? I await the showdown between "bulletproof" cleaner and bulletproof ink. My money is Nathan. :thumbup:



Some of us pay extra for ink that can't be eradicated.

I am very keen to see a showdown between this product and a range of inks. In fact I will do it myself. As soon as the OP has arranged a supply of product to be sent to me for review, I will get a range of inks in different colours ready. I suppose every test will have to be done twice, when the ink is fresh and when it has dried for an hour.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 16:12

In addition to bulletproof and invincible inks, I'd like to see how it handles a traditional high iron gall content ink. Something like the ink pharmacist is making.

Now if the product is something like liquid paper or correction tape which one could write over with fountain pen ink, that would be more interesting.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 16:34

In addition to bulletproof and invincible inks, I'd like to see how it handles a traditional high iron gall content ink. Something like the ink pharmacist is making.

Now if the product is something like liquid paper or correction tape which one could write over with fountain pen ink, that would be more interesting.

I do not like liquid paper, I want something that disappears the ink and lets me start again. There did used to be a product like that in Germany in the 1960s.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 16:43

Hard to believe that such a thing could exist, in fact, I doubt that it could be possible.

The concept of ink erasers (most of them these days for Royal Blues) is based on chemical disoxidation. This can function properly, but unfortunately air has some O2. So, with time, ...

Edited by mirosc, 10 February 2012 - 16:44.

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#14 someonesdad

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 18:24

Of course, this could also be a troll... :rolleyes:

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 18:51


In addition to bulletproof and invincible inks, I'd like to see how it handles a traditional high iron gall content ink. Something like the ink pharmacist is making.

Now if the product is something like liquid paper or correction tape which one could write over with fountain pen ink, that would be more interesting.

I do not like liquid paper, I want something that disappears the ink and lets me start again. There did used to be a product like that in Germany in the 1960s.


I was thinking of liquid paper or correcting tape because covering fraud resistant archival inks (i.e. bulletproof, invincible, iron gall, etc.) seems more plausible than erasing them. Now an eraser that worked for most, if not all, regular inks (but not the fraud resistant archival varieties) would still be a useful.

I just find the claim that an eraser could erase all inks, including the fraud resistant archival varieties, pretty hard to believe.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 20:13

I just find the claim that an eraser could erase all inks, including the fraud resistant archival varieties, pretty hard to believe.

Which is naturally why I am keen to review this putative substance.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 21:35




I just find the claim that an eraser could erase all inks, including the fraud resistant archival varieties, pretty hard to believe.

Which is naturally why I am keen to review this putative substance.


Yup. I think we're all eagerly awaiting samples to review...:)

Edited by raging.dragon, 10 February 2012 - 21:35.


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Posted 11 February 2012 - 01:05

Bleaching agents will turn Iron-Gall ink a faint beige.
Tucker's reagent will remove any and all bulletproof inks, but does so by removing the paper in the process...
Nothing will remove carbon particle pigment inks, because as far as I know, nothing will dissolve carbon particles.

If you were able to make a workable blend of Iron-Gall, Bulletproof and Carbon inks, I'd like to see something that could remove that without damaging the paper.

Of course, remembering that plain old water will remove any of the above inks before they have dried.

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 02:21

Again?
http://www.fountainp...ost__p__2170064


Not enough filled out his survey the first time and he lacks enough results to be statistically significant. This thread could just as well be titled "A cure to end all cancer."
With the new FPN rules, now I REALLY don't know what to put in my signature.

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 02:48

Bleaching agents will turn Iron-Gall ink a faint beige.
Tucker's reagent will remove any and all bulletproof inks, but does so by removing the paper in the process...
Nothing will remove carbon particle pigment inks, because as far as I know, nothing will dissolve carbon particles.

If you were able to make a workable blend of Iron-Gall, Bulletproof and Carbon inks, I'd like to see something that could remove that without damaging the paper.

Of course, remembering that plain old water will remove any of the above inks before they have dried.


Would Tucker's reagent destroy the paper any less thoroughly than fire? And fire would even burn the carbon pigment!

Edited by raging.dragon, 11 February 2012 - 02:49.


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Posted 11 February 2012 - 02:56

Greetings my fellow fountain pen lovers!

Is erasing ink an important issue for you guys?
If so, would you guys be interested in purchasing a product that can erase all inks from all surfaces including multicolored paper?

Thank you,

InKase



EEEEK! Order blue-black Registrar's Ink from halfway around the world, and then ERASE it? If it needs to be erased that badly, then I'll just go with a paper shredder.


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 02:08


Bleaching agents will turn Iron-Gall ink a faint beige.
Tucker's reagent will remove any and all bulletproof inks, but does so by removing the paper in the process...
Nothing will remove carbon particle pigment inks, because as far as I know, nothing will dissolve carbon particles.

If you were able to make a workable blend of Iron-Gall, Bulletproof and Carbon inks, I'd like to see something that could remove that without damaging the paper.

Of course, remembering that plain old water will remove any of the above inks before they have dried.


Would Tucker's reagent destroy the paper any less thoroughly than fire? And fire would even burn the carbon pigment!


I think we are talking about solvents here.

If we include non-solvent methods, then here are a few --
Fire (as already mentioned)
Shredding (then composting for secure destruction)
Small (and possibly large) nuclear explosions
A goat
A teething 18-month-old child
...

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 02:40



Bleaching agents will turn Iron-Gall ink a faint beige.
Tucker's reagent will remove any and all bulletproof inks, but does so by removing the paper in the process...
Nothing will remove carbon particle pigment inks, because as far as I know, nothing will dissolve carbon particles.

If you were able to make a workable blend of Iron-Gall, Bulletproof and Carbon inks, I'd like to see something that could remove that without damaging the paper.

Of course, remembering that plain old water will remove any of the above inks before they have dried.


Would Tucker's reagent destroy the paper any less thoroughly than fire? And fire would even burn the carbon pigment!


I think we are talking about solvents here.

If we include non-solvent methods, then here are a few --
Fire (as already mentioned)
Shredding (then composting for secure destruction)
Small (and possibly large) nuclear explosions
A goat
A teething 18-month-old child
...


:ltcapd:
With the new FPN rules, now I REALLY don't know what to put in my signature.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 03:07

My solution:

blah blah blah mistake blah blah blah...

Works pretty well for me. :thumbup:

FP's and ink can be expensive enough without paying extra for something to take your nice ink away from the paper.

EDIT

I think we are talking about solvents here.

If we include non-solvent methods, then here are a few --
Fire (as already mentioned)
Shredding (then composting for secure destruction)
Small (and possibly large) nuclear explosions
A goat
A teething 18-month-old child
...

And who could possibly omit those dogs that eat everyone's homework?

Edited by P.A.R., 19 February 2012 - 03:10.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 03:19



Bleaching agents will turn Iron-Gall ink a faint beige.
Tucker's reagent will remove any and all bulletproof inks, but does so by removing the paper in the process...
Nothing will remove carbon particle pigment inks, because as far as I know, nothing will dissolve carbon particles.

If you were able to make a workable blend of Iron-Gall, Bulletproof and Carbon inks, I'd like to see something that could remove that without damaging the paper.

Of course, remembering that plain old water will remove any of the above inks before they have dried.


Would Tucker's reagent destroy the paper any less thoroughly than fire? And fire would even burn the carbon pigment!


I think we are talking about solvents here.

If we include non-solvent methods, then here are a few --
Fire (as already mentioned)
Shredding (then composting for secure destruction)
Small (and possibly large) nuclear explosions
A goat
A teething 18-month-old child
...


I think this would be sufficient:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwlNPhn64TA