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Copperplate.. without a flexible nib

#1 User is offline   whitelily 

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 09:47 AM

Hi,
I was wondering if anyone of you ever write Copperplate (or Spencerian) without a flexible nib? If anyone does, I´d be curious to see handwritten examples of what that looks like. Would it still be considered as Copperplate, even when it is not "shaded"?

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 02:02 PM

View Postwhitelily, on 01 August 2010 - 09:47 AM, said:

Hi,
I was wondering if anyone of you ever write Copperplate (or Spencerian) without a flexible nib? If anyone does, I´d be curious to see handwritten examples of what that looks like. Would it still be considered as Copperplate, even when it is not "shaded"?

"Business Writing" is basically a form of Spencerian without the shading. As you can see from this example, I'm a big fan!

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 06:57 PM

Beautiful writing, as always, Caliken!:) Thank you!

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 07:41 PM

Copperplate with a narrow edged (Italic) nib can look very nice, if the pen angle is 30 degrees or fewer (rather than the 45 degrees used for Italic).

The more that a writing slants, the less its pen angle should be if written with an edged nib: try it!


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Posted 01 August 2010 - 08:29 PM

Ah, nice! I will try that. Thank you!

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 09:10 PM

This was written some time ago as an experiment.

I wrote the version with an edged nib (the italic nib one) at the same angle as the normal copperplate one for a direct comparison.
For the same reason, I used an italic nib which would produce about the same degree of shading as the flex nib.
I had to use a certain amount of nib manipulation to produce the hairlines.

IMO it's actually much easier to do with the flex pointed nib.....and it looks better. :hmm1:

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 03:25 PM

Beautiful handwriting, caliken! Simply gorgeous.

My high-school aged son is looking for an attractive cursive that is also fast to write. I recommended this thread to him. Do you happen to have a complete alphabet of Business Cursive, or know where one exists on the web? This is what we've both been looking for. Now that I've gone through the 5 Spencerian workbooks, I'd like to next learn this related, but more everyday script.

Thanks for any direction you can provide.

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 04:44 PM

I agree, Caliken. I also prefer the example written with the flex pointed nib, but they´re both absolutely beautiful!

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 08:34 PM

View PostRobbW, on 02 August 2010 - 03:25 PM, said:

My high-school aged son is looking for an attractive cursive that is also fast to write. I recommended this thread to him. Do you happen to have a complete alphabet of Business Cursive, or know where one exists on the web? This is what we've both been looking for. Now that I've gone through the 5 Spencerian workbooks, I'd like to next learn this related, but more everyday script.


If you go here you will find "Modern Business Penmanship" by Edward C Mills. This complete do-it-yourself manual can be printed off, and it's well worth the time and the paper. This little manual contains particularly beautiful examples of the style.

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 10:27 PM

Thanks very much, Caliken! That is perfect, just what we were looking for. My son says thanks, too.

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