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J. Herbin Vert Empire is a forest green ink with grey undertones. To me, it is invocative of a pine forest in the hazy light of morning. It is a wet ink with low saturation, so it exhibits a tremendous tonal range, depending on the pen and paper used. In most of my pens it displays significant shading, whereas in a wet writer it lays down a very dark line. Also, the ink takes on the character of the paper – for example, it takes on slight olive tones when used with the off-white paper of Moleskine journals.

 

Like all other J. Herbin inks I've tried, Vert Empire flows exceptionally well. Because it is so wet, it does exhibit minor feathering on some papers. It behaves well on Rhodia and some Moleskine papers, exhibiting minor show-through and bleed-through. On the thin paper of a Moleskine cahier, however, show- and bleed-through is significant. I don't believe the paper is sturdy enough to stand up to it.

 

The dry time of this ink seems to be fairly consistent between Rhodia and Moleskine – about six to eight seconds. I typically write on an incline, which often causes ink to pool at the bottom of letters, thus increasing the time it takes ink to dry when compared to writing on a flat surface. Therefore, flat-writers might experience a quicker dry-time.

 

Vert Empire is an attractive ink that is conservative enough for business use, yet interesting enough for artistic use. However, I would recommend using it with a white paper, as it does not provide sufficient contrast on off-white paper for daily use.

 

J. Herbin fountain pen inks come in a 30ml bottle with an integrated pen rest that is suitable for displaying on top of one's desk.

 

Review materials: For the wide strokes, I used a Lamy 1.1mm steel calligraphy nib on a Lamy Safari. For the fine strokes, I used a Lamy EF steel nib on a Lamy Safari. The medium strokes were made using a Montegrappa Tributo ad Antonio Stradivari with a medium 18K gold nib. The paper is Rhodia 80g.

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Great review!!!I love the color,it looks very nice on cream-colored paper,plus is a well-behaved ink :thumbup:

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This is becoming my favorite green ink, I'm using it every day it seems. Thanks for the great review. Do you have any idea of the derivation of the name of this ink? I see a laurel wreath on the box--I wonder if it's Napolean's crown and the color is meant to replicate that? (just a guess!)

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nice review, dave! i should've gotten this one instead of the diamine umber, i'm thinking.

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That's a great colour! Thanks for the review.

 

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Nice review, thanks.

And how can this be, because he is the Kwisatz Haderach.

 

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This is the review all others should be measured against--well-written, thorough, and filled with great examples! Thank you for the best review I've read on this site! I hope other reviewers will turn to this one as a model. Bravo!

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Very good review.

 

I love this ink. The colors on the scan are exactly what the ink looks like.

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This is the review all others should be measured against--well-written, thorough, and filled with great examples! Thank you for the best review I've read on this site! I hope other reviewers will turn to this one as a model. Bravo!

 

Wow! Thanks for the compliment. I'm new to reviewing ink, so I try to take all of the suggestions and questions that people have an incorporate them into my subsequent reviews. If anyone has anything specific that they'd like to see addressed in the future, please don't hesitate to let me know.

 

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Do you have any idea of the derivation of the name of this ink? I see a laurel wreath on the box--I wonder if it's Napolean's crown and the color is meant to replicate that? (just a guess!)

 

I do not know what was the designer's idea behind the name, but dark green a common colour in Napoleonic Army uniforms: dragons, chasseurs à cheval, some types of light infantry, among the most important. Of course, Napoleon himself wore usually a dark green uniform, that of the Guard Chasseurs à Cheval. Just my guess.

 

Nice review, by the way. This is a colour I am certainly tempted by. I have a couple of greens, but slow-drying (Noodler's and PR)- I would like a faster drying dark green.

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I'm trying this ink as a replacement of the late Montblanc Racing Green. Like all the Herbin iks, it behaves well. I also like the colour but I wish it was a tad darker.

Should I add some black ink in the bottle? On the box it is written 'Never mix two different inks.'

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Man, I just love your handwriting. I've seen at least one other review of yours (Poussière de Lune, I believe) and I'm jealous of your script :notworthy1:

 

I like this green, esp. in my Pelikan Script. I think it has great shading and shows best in very wet writing pens. That's one of the best things about J. Herbin inks in general.

 

I'm biased b/c I sell J. Herbin, of course, so of course I'm going to say I like it. I will say though it wasn't as dark as I thought it might have been just from the name. I think I was expecting a deep, dark green, and this is just a tad on the lighter side of what I first thought it would be. It's grown on me though. For a true GREEN color, Lierre Sauvage fits the bill. I've been on a Lierre Sauvage kick for a little bit, but I think I might go back to Vert Empire now :thumbup:

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I just realized your other review is just a few links down the page in the subforum, DUH! Here: https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/146108-j-herbin-poussiere-de-lune/

 

At least my memory served me right, it was a Poussière de Lune review! :thumbup:

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Great review.

Thanks

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Man, I just love your handwriting. I've seen at least one other review of yours (Poussière de Lune, I believe) and I'm jealous of your script :notworthy1:

 

Thanks so much. I consider myself relatively new to calligraphy, so it's very encouraging to hear that other people like what I've done. :)

 

I've done seven reviews so far (including this one):

 

Iroshizuku Kiri-same - https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/145860-iroshizuku-kiri-same/

Iroshizuku Kon-peki - https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/148092-iroshizuku-kon-penki/

Iroshizuku Yu-yake - https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/145713-iroshizuku-yu-yake/

J. Herbin Poussiere de Lune - https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/146108-j-herbin-poussiere-de-lune/

J. Herbin Vert Empire - https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/147367-j-herbin-vert-empire/

Lamy Blue - https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/146496-lamy-blue/

Noodler's Black - https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/146606-noodlers-bulletproof-black/

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I always love the little pictures you sketch! Great review also!

With the new FPN rules, now I REALLY don't know what to put in my signature.

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Very good review.

 

I love this ink. The colors on the scan are exactly what the ink looks like.

great! now i really gotta get it!!

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Your excellent review encouraged me to order a bottle of this and I'm very glad I did. Fantastic ink!

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