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#1 Rob G

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 04:10

It's a red LJ, I think, found on eBay for $15.95. (If I'm wrong, please advise.)

I had to flush a bunch of ink out of it, but it works fine. It's got a 2550 point, which reminds me of the Gillot Registry nib which I like so much whenever I feel like dipping. It is drier than I would like, but one cannot have everything.

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First, my mom gives me her '30s Vac. Then I find a Sheaffer Triumph among my late father's effects. Now an Esterbrook in excellent condition for a song.

I could get used to this.



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Posted 23 April 2009 - 04:23

Congratulations! Nice pen at a good price. One of the great things about Esties is that it's so easy to replace the nibs. And the nibs are excellent, especially the 9000 Series Renew nibs.
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Posted 23 April 2009 - 04:53

At 4 5/16" long you have an SJ, the shorter thinner model of the J series. The LJ is the same diameter but about 1/2"
longer, the J is about the same length as the LJ but a little thickererer.

It might not hurt the flow to pull the nib and soak it good in either some clear, warm water and/or a 1:10 Ammonia/water
solution and them blow it out good.

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 10:53

I've got my first Estie today, too. It is also in a deep raspberry red colour, but it is the standard J model. I've inked it up with some El Lawrence and it seems that this 2556 nib is both rather wet and smooth. Instant affection. A beautiful, shining little pen.
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Posted 23 April 2009 - 11:48

Rob, I'm glad you like your new Esterbrook. I recently got one with a 9550 nib, and find it writes very smoothly. You might consider upgrading the nib.
May you have pens you enjoy, with plenty of paper and ink. :)

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 12:42

Congrats. I got my first Estie a couple weeks ago. That one has quickly mushroomed into five. Not all of them are working at the moment, but that's not a big deal. One's in the shop and another is sitting in pieces awaiting a reply from Sylvia at Tryphon so I can get my repair parts.

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 13:08

Couldn't this thread be pinned and be a permanent thread where beginners can rave over their new Esties and the oldies share their memories of their first ones?

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 16:03

Thanks for the help.

Admittedly, I was impatient to try it out at work yesterday, so I inked it with my favorite Electric Blue even though there was still a bit of black ink leaching out of the feed's "back door". When I got home last night I spritzed the nib with Windex and left it in a cup of water overnight. The old ink seems to be finally gone. I'm just waiting for it to dry.

Some different nibs are definitely on the radar screen. Something flexible, and something "stubbish".

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 18:29

QUOTE (dandelion @ Apr 23 2009, 06:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Couldn't this thread be pinned and be a permanent thread where beginners can rave over their new Esties and the oldies share their memories of their first ones?

Am I an oldie?

I think what we should pin is the Standard Estie Warning...

Rob, welcome aboard. As many here will tell you, you will soon have more than one.

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Posted 23 April 2009 - 19:05

Oldie, smoldie...

You're one of our most respected C-worders!

(Todd, that HAS TO BE one of THE BEST avatars in ALL of FPN, I chuckle every time I see it.)

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Posted 24 April 2009 - 02:26

Well, I cleaned it squeaky-clean and re-inked it with the Electric Blue - a pretty wet ink - and it's still very dry. It puts down a line which is several shades lighter than any other pen that I own (including EFs) with the same ink.

The tines are really tight. I'm afraid to try to spread them, because the metal is so stiff. Maybe when I get another nib or two, I'll try it. Has anyone done this?

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Rob, welcome aboard. As many here will tell you, you will soon have more than one.

I'm afraid that you may be right...

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Posted 24 April 2009 - 03:11

Rob-

Try running something like a sheet of mylar between the tines like floss. You may also need to push some water through the nib clear out some gunk.

Most of us knew the feeling (I call it the spiral) - First I'll get a couple of extra renew points. Then I'll pick up a few extra pens so I can have more than one style up and going. Then you are just two colors away from a set but one is a transitional the others are Js. Pretty soon you like the different sizes and you need to know just how that next nib on the list writes and so what if it comes with a pen, there is no reason you can't have another. Then it hits you, why not get a desk set, then one for work then you are on the boarder between C and A. (Collector and Accumulator). Humm this reminds me there are CA101s we could search for too.

Some of us fanatically deny being C-worders. Both Bruce and I are A-worders although it is debatable what A actually stands for. Some claim addict is closer to the truth. I have been called a Pusher which gives us a whole different dimension to the Estie problem.

Bruce-

Thanks, but I'm required to report he figured out the cap thing a few days ago so this will get fun soon! The picture was on or about the 6 month mark. He really likes playing with pens so I'm doomed. (Or is Mom doomed?)

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Posted 24 April 2009 - 07:47

The nib is as clean as it can be. I tried a stainless-steel feeler gauge but it wasn't rigid enough.

Finally I dug up an X-Acto knife with a new blade and eased the point of it between the tines, and twisted a couple of degrees in each direction. It helped a lot. Now I can even write (with a very light touch) with the tip inverted, which I could not do before.

I figure to get a 9128, a 9450, and a medium stub for now. Then I'll want blue and green bodies to go with the red...


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Posted 24 April 2009 - 20:54

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 22:17

QUOTE (FarmBoy @ Apr 23 2009, 09:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Most of us knew the feeling (I call it the spiral) - First I'll get a couple of extra renew points. Then I'll pick up a few extra pens so I can have more than one style up and going. Then you are just two colors away from a set but one is a transitional the others are Js. Pretty soon you like the different sizes and you need to know just how that next nib on the list writes and so what if it comes with a pen, there is no reason you can't have another. Then it hits you, why not get a desk set, then one for work then you are on the boarder between C and A. (Collector and Accumulator). Humm this reminds me there are CA101s we could search for too.

Todd

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Posted 05 May 2009 - 17:17

I had a suggestion to pin a thread regarding your first Esterbrook. Let's hear your tales of your first Esterbrook and give a warm welcome to all the new members of the Esterbrook Fan Club! New collectors, please post here!

Cheers-
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Posted 05 May 2009 - 18:34

I'll be daring and put my toe in the water. My first Esterbrook is a desk set, a 407 dip-less and I quite enjoy it. Skrip blue-black, and use it every day. The dip-less is a lovely way to write.

My first Esterbrook fountain pen, is two. Both SJ. I have three fine nibs: 9550, 9555, and 9556. They all write beautifully. Skrip blue and blue-black. One of the SJ's somehow flips ink onto my clothes, and I haven't figured out exactly when or how it happens. I find ink spots on my clothes and sometimes on the floor. I don't wave the pen around, so, who knows? Have never had a pen do this before.

Hmmm, come to think of it, my first Esterbrooks were dip nibs. I like all my Esterbrooks.
May you have pens you enjoy, with plenty of paper and ink. :)

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 07:50

I recieved my first Estie about a month ago after longing for trying one. This Estie is a shimmery red J pen. I was very surprised by the high quality of it. Considered that it was initially made to serve the masses, the quality and finish are extraordinary; even 50-something years later. I think it looks like a little gem - shimmering red - and is a comfortable writer. The issue on this Estie was the nib. Nothing serious - it just turned out that the 2556 was too broad for my taste. I already liked my little red gem, so I didn't want to part with the pen - only the nib. This being an Estie the nib issue could - of course - be resolved in the simplest of ways - buy and try a new nib. So I did. I found a real good notetaking nib in the 9550 and now I'm so glad to have my happy little red Estie with a very extra fine nib. I also like that she (yes - I don't usually have names or genders on my pens, but this is a she) is not to fragile for everyday use. I might buy other Esties, but this is the first and for the moment I'm perfectly satisfied with my only Estie.

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 21:17

QUOTE (Brian Anderson @ May 5 2009, 10:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I had a suggestion to pin a thread regarding your first Esterbrook. Let's hear your tales of your first Esterbrook and give a warm welcome to all the new members of the Esterbrook Fan Club! New collectors, please post here!

Cheers-
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Yeah, my first Estie. If I could only go back....

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 22:57

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Please excuse these crappy nOOb pics, they were my absolute first pen pics 11 months ago when I knew
(amazing that it is possible) even less about shooting them than I do now.

This is my first Este, a light gray SJ from Toulouse, a past, since evaporated regular here. (and I REALLY
miss him sad.gif ) It is still one of my prettiest Esties though I quickly learned the SJ is a tad small for me. Todd
(Toulouse) was a great buddy, very helpful here, and his restorations are my benchmark for how an Estie is
supposed to turn out. I am lucky enough to have 3 other pens from him, a Blue Streaker J, Gray Streaker J
and a Copper LJ. I have yet to see a Blue Streaker as nice in the past 11 months as the one he sold me.
He did mostly requests from other fan-customers of his but the other 2 Esties he put on the MP here lasted
less than 30 min there.

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 00:13

I got my first Estie on Saturday. She is a B-E-A-utiful double jewel j in copper, with a 9048 notworthy1.gif nib. It is awesome and tremendous fun to write with. This will be my only Esterbrook. I'll let you all know how that goes. smile.gif

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 02:05

"This will be my only Esterbrook."

It's hard to stop at just one!
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Posted 07 May 2009 - 03:22

I'm sad to say it, but I don't remember my first Estie. There was no "magic moment". For me, it was like getting older: it happens gradually until one day you realize you're not as young as you used to be. For me, I was in accumulation mode and ended up with quite a few Esties because they were inexpensive and easy to fix. It wasn't long before I had the beginnings of a collection.

As a side note, I used to print out the completed eBay auction listings after I won something. In the days before Paypal was around or common (2000 or so), it helped me to remember when I mailed a check and if I'd received an item. I'll dig through them and see if there's any interesting prices or purchases in there.
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Posted 11 May 2009 - 22:48

It lay in a drawer for 15 years, a plain Jane Gray, with "streaks". It lay there with seven other inherited pens.

Flea market time. Tasked to find their worth. Esterbrook, was a vague name in the back of my mind. I saw a beautiful snake red some where on Ebay, and wished it than the gray.

That Farber-Castell, turned out to be an Osmia-Farber-Castell with a Supra nib and worth money.
Every thing was fine still...then I made the great mistake of buying a bottle of Pelikan Royal Blue.
Half the pens wrote and wrote well. I found pen coms...I was lost...first a pen, then a full bottle of ink, and sneaking midnight peeks at EBay...

Suddenly, my Silver Cross hatched silver Parker 75 got rescued from my wife's jewelry box, where it was for the last 30 years.
I had a 8 pens, but not a collection...of mostly no name pens, but solid German piston fillers.
I had as many as I needed, but only the Esterbrook had quick changing nibs.

There was a cigar box with Estie parts...and some ho hum Weavers...whose nibs could be used for Esties. A small fortune later I had a "collection". I've decided to keep the Wearevers too, some are from the 30's, 40's, 50-70's. Pretty things too, aught to shine up well.

I must say a brilliant blue cap on a Copper barrel looks sharp. Of course you have to carry two or three normals just to show you are doing it on purpose and not because you are color blind.

It isn't the pen, nor even the ink. It's when you are looking for nibs at EBay Midnight and slipping into bed wondering how better paper wrote. That's when you are lost.

I am glad folks don't smoke any more, one should be able to find cigar cases cheap. I've got no problem with pens. I can take them or leave them.

After all it don't got to be Alligator.
I don't have a problem.

True, I didn't use to wear a sports jacket all the time; it's a cool summer you know.

It's not that I really got to carry many "cigar" cases with me. Just a couple, after all one never knows, what color ink or nib one needs. One has to be prepared.
It's not like I need to write anything; normally.
Oh, I've always done poetry, on the off and on, or vivid description here or there.
Ya, true, more lately, than before. But it's not a problem, let me assure you.

I don't have a problem. It's not like I carry cartridge pens with me
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Edited by Bo Bo Olson, 11 May 2009 - 22:48.

Due to Mauricio's improved definition of Super-flex, I no longer use the term Easy Full Flex.

 

Semi-flex is an “almost” flex; not a ‘flex’ nib. It is great for regular writing with a touch of flair. It can give you some fancy; but it is not made for real fancy writing. For bit more of that get a 'flexi'/maxi-semi-flex. Both spread tines 3X.  Those are not "Flex" nibs. 

 

Odd, how many who should know better, compares Japanese F (which equals EF), with Western F, with out a second thought, but do not compare Japanese B with Western B.

 

Wider than Normal does not exist. Wider than Japanese does. Every company has it's very own standard + slop/tolerance. Developed from the users of it's pens only; not the users of other companies pens. The size you grind a nib to, is your standard only. Paper and ink matter to nib width. Thank god for 1/2 sizes or it would be boring.


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Posted 12 May 2009 - 05:32

What did you say?
You have a Snake Scaled Red?

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Do you know neither of them even had so much as a Jotter on their bodies?
What sort of man did they think I was, a Schaeffer collector?


Are you sure that that d*mmed Prof Jones knows where there is a Dragon Scaled Red?

Due to Mauricio's improved definition of Super-flex, I no longer use the term Easy Full Flex.

 

Semi-flex is an “almost” flex; not a ‘flex’ nib. It is great for regular writing with a touch of flair. It can give you some fancy; but it is not made for real fancy writing. For bit more of that get a 'flexi'/maxi-semi-flex. Both spread tines 3X.  Those are not "Flex" nibs. 

 

Odd, how many who should know better, compares Japanese F (which equals EF), with Western F, with out a second thought, but do not compare Japanese B with Western B.

 

Wider than Normal does not exist. Wider than Japanese does. Every company has it's very own standard + slop/tolerance. Developed from the users of it's pens only; not the users of other companies pens. The size you grind a nib to, is your standard only. Paper and ink matter to nib width. Thank god for 1/2 sizes or it would be boring.


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Posted 23 May 2009 - 20:55

QUOTE (FarmBoy @ Apr 23 2009, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
...I think what we should pin is the Standard Estie Warning...

FarmBoy:

Please forgive my newbie ignorance, but what is the "Standard Estie Warning"?

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 19:44

"Hi, My name is Fred and this is my first Estie."

And it's a beaut (aren't they all?). Green swirl SJ, you have to look hard to see scratches, imprint's a little shallow. Section came away relatively easy, sac appears to be in excellent shape. A little gunk between nib (2668) and feed, but that's okay. It's nice to know that anything that's wrong with this thing is cheap and easy to fix. Eventhough I haven't had a chance to play with it yet, I know there will be more. It's amazing how well cheap things were made back in the day.

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 23:17

I just got my first Estie in today's mail. It's a green, I think a J (I'm still working on how to tell) with a 2556 (firm fine, general writing, says the chart), with what appears to be a mismatched cap (has the right kind of tassie, but no Esterbrook name stamped on the clip and the cap is plain black with a three-layer silver-tone ring) that none the less fits correctly (maybe from a cheaper, later Estie?). I've removed the sac fragments, verified the lever and J-bar are okay, and will be off to the repair forum shortly to verify the correct size of sac to order (if I've understood correctly how to measure, looks like an 18).

This'll also be my first resac, but it looks easy enough... rolleyes.gif
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Posted 18 June 2009 - 00:12

QUOTE (ZeissIkon @ Jun 17 2009, 07:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just got my first Estie in today's mail. It's a green, I think a J (I'm still working on how to tell) with a 2556 (firm fine, general writing, says the chart), with what appears to be a mismatched cap (has the right kind of tassie, but no Esterbrook name stamped on the clip and the cap is plain black with a three-layer silver-tone ring) that none the less fits correctly (maybe from a cheaper, later Estie?). I've removed the sac fragments, verified the lever and J-bar are okay, and will be off to the repair forum shortly to verify the correct size of sac to order (if I've understood correctly how to measure, looks like an 18).

This'll also be my first resac, but it looks easy enough... rolleyes.gif


Assuming it's a J family, a #16 sac cut to 1 15/16".

Do a search on Richard Binders site for Esterbrook to ID your pen.

Bruce in Ocala, FL

Edited by OcalaFlGuy, 18 June 2009 - 02:09.


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Posted 18 June 2009 - 00:20

QUOTE (OcalaFlGuy @ Jun 17 2009, 08:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (ZeissIkon @ Jun 17 2009, 07:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just got my first Estie in today's mail. It's a green, I think a J (I'm still working on how to tell) with a 2556 (firm fine, general writing, says the chart), with what appears to be a mismatched cap (has the right kind of tassie, but no Esterbrook name stamped on the clip and the cap is plain black with a three-layer silver-tone ring) that none the less fits correctly (maybe from a cheaper, later Estie?). I've removed the sac fragments, verified the lever and J-bar are okay, and will be off to the repair forum shortly to verify the correct size of sac to order (if I've understood correctly how to measure, looks like an 18).

This'll also be my first resac, but it looks easy enough... rolleyes.gif


Assuming it's a J family, a #18 sac cut to 1 15/16".

Do a search on Richard Binders site for Esterbrook to ID your pen.

Bruce in Ocala, FL


Well, now I'm seeing both Pen Sac Company and Wood Bin recommend a #16, and Richard Binder gives a good reason for it -- the sac shouldn't be too intimate with the barrel wall, lest it act like an eyedropper or piston filler and drip ink due to heating of the air in the sac by the hand. Yes, the #16 holds less ink, and the original might even have been a #18, but I'd rather have to fill a little more frequently than have blobs, or a cap full of ink.

Edited by ZeissIkon, 18 June 2009 - 00:21.

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