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#1 CasmiUK

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Posted 20 January 2009 - 18:35

Rhode Island’s own A.T. Cross Company made the pen that President Obama will use to sign a series of inauguration documents and executive orders today.

The company, founded in Providence in 1846 and now based in Lincoln, was selected by the Obama-Biden transition team to provide the president’s official writing instruments. Marketing manager Lori Geshelin said yesterday that Cross has provided pens for many presidents.

With just a week’s notice, the company delivered the specially designed Cross Townsend black lacquer rolling-ball pens that will be used today.

They feature the presidential coat of arms and are engraved with Obama’s signature on the barrel.

The company sells a similar pen on its Web site, www.cross.com, for $135. A version in 10-karat gold is also available.

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Posted 20 January 2009 - 18:50

Ahhh, I saw that. Cross made Bush's official pens too.

I saw him use it for signing documents right after the inauguration, and thought it looked like an MB but with a squared off barrel end. That it's a Cross hashes with the limited view I had of the pen. smile.gif
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 19:02

So he is using an American made pen. Good for him.

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Posted 20 January 2009 - 19:27

When do the fakes hit the bay? sick.gif

Edited by MrK, 20 January 2009 - 19:29.

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Posted 20 January 2009 - 19:29

QUOTE (MrK @ Jan 20 2009, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When do the fakes hit the bay sick.gif

What, you haven't bought yours yet?

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Posted 20 January 2009 - 19:44

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When do the fakes hit the bay sick.gif

What, you haven't bought yours yet?


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Posted 21 January 2009 - 01:28

wow, that is so cool.
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Posted 21 January 2009 - 02:42

Be cooler if it was a fountain pen and not a roller ball.

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 03:10

yes but they pens are only used officially once and FP use is uncommon.
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Posted 21 January 2009 - 06:17

Yeh I saw the whole thing when he signed the paper. i actually thought it was a fountain pen and not a rollerball but I guess not. But there is one thing I can say for certain, Obama writes in a really funny angle.


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Posted 21 January 2009 - 06:21

"I was told not to swipe the pen." I like his humour. thumbup.gif


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Posted 21 January 2009 - 06:24

QUOTE (ExcaliburZ @ Jan 21 2009, 03:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yes but they pens are only used officially once and FP use is uncommon.


It's strange because when I see certain Heads of State on television signing major agreements etc they always seem to use a FP.

Maybe its just for the Camera's unsure.gif

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 06:41

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When do the fakes hit the bay sick.gif

What, you haven't bought yours yet?

No, but I downloaded a pirate copy of the inauguration from bit torrent yesterday...



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Posted 21 January 2009 - 12:04

QUOTE ((bleep) @ Jan 20 2009, 02:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So he is using an American made pen. Good for him.

K


It's probably made in China, not the USA. Cross Townsends are all made in China now. The perception is there, but there are no more 100% USA pen companies. USA company, yes. USA made, no.

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Edited by PenHero, 21 January 2009 - 12:04.


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Posted 21 January 2009 - 13:57

QUOTE (Batman @ Jan 21 2009, 12:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeh I saw the whole thing when he signed the paper. i actually thought it was a fountain pen and not a rollerball but I guess not. But there is one thing I can say for certain, Obama writes in a really funny angle.

Maybe that's why he like a lot of lefties don't use a FP. Ink doesn't dry fast enough for dragging your sleeve across. Just a thought.
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Posted 21 January 2009 - 17:38

I beleive that Cross has had the Whitehouse contract for some time now.

For the most part I believe they are engraved bill signing Townsend Select Tips. With "important" (perception varies on that one) bills POTUS signs with several pens and hands them out to the assembled throng.
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Posted 21 January 2009 - 18:32

I just poked around eBay and found someone asking $300 for the 10kt commemorative Century ballpoint that the official website is selling for $120. rolleyes.gif
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Posted 21 January 2009 - 18:52

QUOTE (BillZ @ Jan 21 2009, 08:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Batman @ Jan 21 2009, 12:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeh I saw the whole thing when he signed the paper. i actually thought it was a fountain pen and not a rollerball but I guess not. But there is one thing I can say for certain, Obama writes in a really funny angle.

Maybe that's why he like a lot of lefties don't use a FP. Ink doesn't dry fast enough for dragging your sleeve across. Just a thought.


Yes, those first few act orders of his new office appeared to be very nicely prepared and bound.

Probably wouldn't have been real good for him to sign his first Presedential orders then drag his
sleeve over them leaving some ink schmeered mess. yikes.gif

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 19:16

Why doesn't cross just use their "presidential pen" status as a marketing gimmick. I mean if it's good enough for the president of the United States, it's good enough for everyone.


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Posted 21 January 2009 - 19:57

Yeah, a lot of lefties develop that "crab arm" hook when writing, to avoid ink smears. I'll bet Obama has made extensive use of word processors for writing... certainly he was a Blackberry addict! I imagine it'll be a weird feeling for him not having a cell phone... I wonder if he'll carry a PDA?
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 06:20

QUOTE (MYU @ Jan 21 2009, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, a lot of lefties develop that "crab arm" hook when writing, to avoid ink smears. I'll bet Obama has made extensive use of word processors for writing... certainly he was a Blackberry addict! I imagine it'll be a weird feeling for him not having a cell phone... I wonder if he'll carry a PDA?

His blackberry has been approved for personal use only. For official business, he needs an NSA approved cell phone. But I have no clue if they’ve approved any smart phones for him or if he’ll be reduced to just a plain old dumb phone.

ETA: Apparently, he’s got a Sectera Edge. Call me a phone snob but it’s so wrong he’s not using a Blackberry or iPhone.

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 17:40

QUOTE (PenHero @ Jan 21 2009, 12:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE ((bleep) @ Jan 20 2009, 02:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So he is using an American made pen. Good for him.

K


It's probably made in China, not the USA. Cross Townsends are all made in China now. The perception is there, but there are no more 100% USA pen companies. USA company, yes. USA made, no.

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I read in an online review that his were made in Lincoln U.S.A. Don't Tiffany also insist on U.S. made pens rather than China? I buy up the U.S. made models ohmy.gif)


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Posted 23 January 2009 - 17:38

QUOTE (GARY UK @ Jan 22 2009, 12:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I read in an online review that his were made in Lincoln U.S.A. Don't Tiffany also insist on U.S. made pens rather than China? I buy up the U.S. made models ohmy.gif)


I wonder how this is, as NONE of the Townsends sent to dealers are made in USA.

They either reserved pens for this purpose from old stock, repair parts, or the pens are made in China, just like all other Townsends. I don't believe anything I read online unless I check it. I myself have posted erroneous stuff. I can say for certain that all the Townsends we get come in boxes clearly marked Made in China.

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 18:32

QUOTE (PenHero @ Jan 23 2009, 12:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (GARY UK @ Jan 22 2009, 12:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I read in an online review that his were made in Lincoln U.S.A. Don't Tiffany also insist on U.S. made pens rather than China? I buy up the U.S. made models ohmy.gif)


I wonder how this is, as NONE of the Townsends sent to dealers are made in USA.

They either reserved pens for this purpose from old stock, repair parts, or the pens are made in China, just like all other Townsends. I don't believe anything I read online unless I check it. I myself have posted erroneous stuff. I can say for certain that all the Townsends we get come in boxes clearly marked Made in China.

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I just spoke with Debbie Gloria, A.T. Cross customer service. The Obama pens were made in China but the
Presidential seal and his name were added in Rhode Island.

She was also amusingly interested in hearing of the President's difficulty in unposting the Townsend and
said she would relay that information "upwards". She's a nice lady, I hope it get's her some "brownie points".

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 06:07

QUOTE (GARY UK @ Jan 22 2009, 09:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (PenHero @ Jan 21 2009, 12:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE ((bleep) @ Jan 20 2009, 02:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So he is using an American made pen. Good for him.

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It's probably made in China, not the USA. Cross Townsends are all made in China now. The perception is there, but there are no more 100% USA pen companies. USA company, yes. USA made, no.

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I read in an online review that his were made in Lincoln U.S.A. Don't Tiffany also insist on U.S. made pens rather than China? I buy up the U.S. made models ohmy.gif)


I can't be too hard on Cross for moving manufacture overseas. I think it was a good move in 2006 when they did. In this day and age that seems to be the way a lot of brand names survive to reducde their cost and stay out of the red. I sure would hate to see Cross become another casualty of the current economic crisis. I dont think pen companies are on the high priority list for government bail out like GM and Chrysler. The last 8 Cross pens I bought were all made in China: ATX FP, Townsend BP, Apogee FP and BP, Century BP and pencil, Century II FP and BP, but they appear to have the same quality as the many older USA made ones I have. At least Cross is still HQ'd in Rhode Island and is still a USA company.


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Posted 26 January 2009 - 06:26

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Yeh I saw the whole thing when he signed the paper. i actually thought it was a fountain pen and not a rollerball but I guess not. But there is one thing I can say for certain, Obama writes in a really funny angle.

Maybe that's why he like a lot of lefties don't use a FP. Ink doesn't dry fast enough for dragging your sleeve across. Just a thought.


Actually, lots of Leftys use FPs. Polls here on FPN show about 25 or 30% of us use FPs - and we only make up about 5% of the population. I'm an extreme lefty just like President Obama - with the wrist twisted around so we're looking directly at the nib. Smearing is not a problem, because our wrist is so far on the north side of the paper that the writing slides under our elbows. Posts have suggested that guys like us should change our style, but now that I'm in company with President Obama, I think not.

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 06:53

QUOTE (Batman @ Jan 21 2009, 02:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why doesn't cross just use their "presidential pen" status as a marketing gimmick. I mean if it's good enough for the president of the United States, it's good enough for everyone.


By tradition, all vendors to the White House are forbidden to use the fact they provide goods to the President in commercial advertising. Press releases are ok, but no commercial advertising. The tradition dates back to Dolly Madison, and is (I think) now part of the contractural agreement.

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 20:51

I have to agree that, at least for the tangible and functional elements ("feel, operation, finish quality), that the Cross BPs I bought at TJ Maxx over the holidays match the numerous USA models that I also have. Obviously, I have no way of judging the metallurgy of the materials, but otherwise, for the price at least, the Chinese pens appear to be the equals of their US models.

But I try to buy the American pens in support of American labor and the history, and will continue to add to my collection of those.
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Posted 27 January 2009 - 03:56

QUOTE (yachtsilverswan @ Jan 26 2009, 01:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Batman @ Jan 21 2009, 02:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why doesn't cross just use their "presidential pen" status as a marketing gimmick. I mean if it's good enough for the president of the United States, it's good enough for everyone.


By tradition, all vendors to the White House are forbidden to use the fact they provide goods to the President in commercial advertising. Press releases are ok, but no commercial advertising. The tradition dates back to Dolly Madison, and is (I think) now part of the contractural agreement.

Thanks for that info, I never knew that.

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 02:06

QUOTE (PenHero @ Jan 21 2009, 07:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE ((bleep) @ Jan 20 2009, 02:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So he is using an American made pen. Good for him.

K


It's probably made in China, not the USA. Cross Townsends are all made in China now. The perception is there, but there are no more 100% USA pen companies. USA company, yes. USA made, no.

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