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#1 walkingagh

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 20:06

I just purchased a new bottle of heart of darkness Noodler's and along with it came an eyedropper pen that I am pretty sure is a modified platinum preppy.

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3 things that are different

1) All the markings have been removed from the pen along with the cartridge that is normally in the preppy.
2) Silicon grease has been added to the threads for seal and to keep them from cracking under preasure
3) A rubber washer has been added just above the threads on the piece with the nib. Tightening the barrel down onto this keeps the barrel from unscrewing in your pocket.

The effect of these last two is that the pen does not leak in your pocket. You do have to make sure you really tighten down the barrel because it can come unscrewed easily. To check, just snap on the cap which fits very snuggly, and turn it on the pen. If the barrel moves it's too loose and you may have a pocket full of ink.

Speaking of full of ink, the barrel of this pen easily 4 or 5 times as much ink as cartridge! I have been using it for the past week, and it really holds alot of ink. I think could even be used as a device for carrying ink in a pinch.

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Nib and writing:
The nib on this pen is a very smooth writer and quite flexible when compared to a safari nib. I actually really like the way it feels. However, it is a very, very wet nib (too wet perhaps) and lays down a fine to medium line.

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Compared to a a Safari EF nib, the line width is very similar, however the wetness is apparent in the feathering that is quite visible on the Moleskine paper. Also you can note how rich and dark the Heart of Darkness Ink is compared to Pelikan Brilliant Black (which is the one in the middle).

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As I said before the writing for this pen is incredibly smooth, and is actually quite fun as the nib just flows over the page. The flexibility and wetness really combine for a nice writing experience. Writing several pages at a sitting was no trouble at all; however, when I stopped to read something for a minute or two, I ran into the only real issue I have with this pen -- it dries out incredibly fast.

I think somewhere between 30 seconds and a minute of being cap-less and not writing, it begins to slow down on the ink flow. After 3-5 minutes it is completely dry, and is quite difficult to restart. Sometimes I have had to resort to putting the cap back on and allowing it to revive in that closed environment. (It generally does write very well immediately after the cap has been removed.) I will try other inks in the future, but given how wet this pen is when it is writing, I think a wetter nib would just be a problem.

Weight and handling:
This pen is incredibly light as I think has been said before. It writes well posted or not and as the cap is so light it makes little difference. The barrel is a decent width but I found it very slippery and hard to grasp, so I made a few small etches with a key to allow me to grip it more loosely. I am partial to light pens, and this one is great.

Carrying it around:
Overall this pen is great for carrying around. The ink has stayed in the pen about as well as it does in my safari (i.e. drop it off the desk and expect some splashes inside the cap). I have had it in my pocket all week without any stains and enjoy having it.

In conclusion: This is a really cheap pen ($4.00 after modifications) that has some potential as an eyedropper pen. It writes well, seems durable so far, and is comfortable. However, you must remember to cap it if you set it down for a moment. If you can get over that hurdle, it is a fun pen, one that you won't mind losing, and could look very cool with the right ink in it.

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#2 donwinn

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 21:54

Where did you purchase the Noodlers that you got a pen with it? I may rethink my ink buying moratorium here.

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 22:16

QUOTE(donwinn @ Jan 21 2008, 04:54 PM) View Post
Where did you purchase the Noodlers that you got a pen with it? I may rethink my ink buying moratorium here.

Donnie


Swisherpens.com -- It's a 4.5 oz bottle with a pen for $15 and I think it's about $20 shipped. Not super cheap, but pretty good deal.

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 22:32

QUOTE(walkingagh @ Jan 21 2008, 04:16 PM) View Post
QUOTE(donwinn @ Jan 21 2008, 04:54 PM) View Post
Where did you purchase the Noodlers that you got a pen with it? I may rethink my ink buying moratorium here.

Donnie


Swisherpens.com -- It's a 4.5 oz bottle with a pen for $15 and I think it's about $20 shipped. Not super cheap, but pretty good deal.


Thanks.

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Posted 28 March 2008 - 00:36

All of the 4 preppy reviews here describe it as a very smooth writer. I got one yesterday and it's a rough, horrid writer. I was expecting something as good as a Varsity but no. I ordered the red and the color is a violent pink-orange-red. Hideous. I replaced the ink with Tiananmen. Didn't make it write any smoother. Maybe I'm just unlucky and got a bad sample.
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Posted 28 March 2008 - 03:10

That's clearly a Preppy. Everyone talks about making the Preppy an eyedropper. Looks like someone's taken it to the next level!

thefsb: I've bought 7 preppies and they've all been nice. But it is a $3 pen, so it's not exactly HQ. Sorry to hear your preppy wasn't so hot.

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Posted 28 March 2008 - 04:37

I think some 4.5oz bottles are in my future. thumbup.gif I still haven't tried LEgal Lapis and HoD.
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Posted 28 March 2008 - 16:47

I have a couple and one is smoother than the other, but neither are horrid. They don't catch, snag or give the sensation of tearing paper.

Love the HoD and the Polar Blue is growing on me.
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Posted 28 March 2008 - 17:00

both preppy's I've gotten (with HOD and Nikita) have dropped ink on the page. They were super wet too. Pretty useless because you never know when a big drop of ink will come out. I think if the pen that comes with it sucks, don't put it in there and make the ink cheaper.

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Posted 28 March 2008 - 17:08

No leaky drippy problems with mine smile.gif
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Posted 03 April 2008 - 13:14

So far from being leaky, this Preppy ED (+ Nikita) is the only pen I've had that I can shake without it leaking. Unfortunately it is also a very stingy writer. (I guess these little punks are all over the map.) I decided to take preemptive measures with the other one and give it a soaking in ammoniated water. A lot of residue appeared on the surface of the ammonia solution. I hope it wasn't the silicone grease.

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 15:00

May well have been the grease. But Home Depot sells it in little blue tubs in the plumbing section. Its in a ziplock baggie with a red and white card that says Master plumber. In the section with the faucet repair parts, o-rings seals etc... Cost about $5

You may want to replace/replenish the grease after some use anyways.

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 16:20

QUOTE(andru @ Apr 3 2008, 06:14 AM) View Post
So far from being leaky, this Preppy ED (+ Nikita) is the only pen I've had that I can shake without it leaking. Unfortunately it is also a very stingy writer. (I guess these little punks are all over the map.)

That seems to be a good way of putting it. Some reviews I have read here and elsewhere indicate that the Platinum Preppy is the bees knees and others... not so much. In my own experience, I bought a black and a pink Platinum Preppy; both were painfully slow to start and, when they did, both felt rough and scratchy and were very stingy with the ink. Annoyed, I dumped the ink, washed the pens with soap and water, let them dry, and gave the black one a Platinum Pocket brush pen refill cartridge. It is now a very agreeable pen for writing and sketching. Though still a little scratchy, it is pleasantly responsive and fun to use.

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Posted 03 April 2008 - 22:16

QUOTE(cmenice @ Mar 28 2008, 01:00 PM) View Post
both preppy's I've gotten (with HOD and Nikita) have dropped ink on the page. They were super wet too. Pretty useless because you never know when a big drop of ink will come out. I think if the pen that comes with it sucks, don't put it in there and make the ink cheaper.


I just turned an ED Preppy back into a cartridge filler. It blobbed ink on the page as an ED filler and leaked out the threads. Apparently the little rubber o-ring was too loose and snagged in the cap repeatedly when I capped the pen. Anyway, I have a bunch of Platinum red cartridges I wanted to use, and where better to use them than in a pink Preppy?

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Posted 04 April 2008 - 01:16

QUOTE(cmenice @ Mar 28 2008, 01:00 PM) View Post
both preppy's I've gotten (with HOD and Nikita) have dropped ink on the page. They were super wet too. Pretty useless because you never know when a big drop of ink will come out. I think if the pen that comes with it sucks, don't put it in there and make the ink cheaper.


I have ink in five now. (Different colors.) No problems with any of them.

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Posted 05 April 2008 - 14:18

QUOTE(thefsb @ Mar 27 2008, 07:36 PM) View Post
All of the 4 preppy reviews here describe it as a very smooth writer. I got one yesterday and it's a rough, horrid writer. I was expecting something as good as a Varsity but no. I ordered the red and the color is a violent pink-orange-red. Hideous. I replaced the ink with Tiananmen. Didn't make it write any smoother. Maybe I'm just unlucky and got a bad sample.


I have a few Preppys and they all write pretty well. You can buy 5 for $12 from
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Buy a couple of the felt highlighter tips ($1.50 for 2) and install those in place of any scratchy nibs.

Or, you could buy something else of course. If you want to spend money on pens there's no shortage of options. If you're looking for cheap pens, you might like the Pilot Petit1.
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 14:57

Just got the platinum preppy but can't start writing as the ink is not flowing mellow.gif Tried holding nib in reverse and doesn't work either. I'm sure the cartridge has been inserted correctly as I can hear the ball bearing moving. What should I do next?

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 23:27

I got three today, one each with Noodler's eyedropper bottled Nikita, waterproof black, and "gold" highlighter ink. I played living hell trying to get them to start (one had to flush with a bulb forever), but now they write decently. Not bad for a freebie.

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 01:12

Thanks, offbase! I gave the fp two sharp flicks just before reading your message and that did the trick. Glad you found a way to start yours too.

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 01:55

QUOTE (cmenice @ Mar 29 2008, 04:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
both preppy's I've gotten (with HOD and Nikita) have dropped ink on the page. They were super wet too. Pretty useless because you never know when a big drop of ink will come out. I think if the pen that comes with it sucks, don't put it in there and make the ink cheaper.


They were probably not sealed correctly. If air gets in through the threads rather than through the feed, Bad Things happen to the flow regulation. A capful of Heart Of Darkness is a likely and undesirable outcome.

Designing an O-ring seal is simple enough. Many eyedropper conversions lack proper containment surfaces to ensure that the O-ring stays in proper contact with the sealing surface. Simply rolling the O-ring onto the flat bit on the section threads is not a properly designed seal.

I have a couple of cartridge preppies and they work fine, but they are not relying on silicon grease and a dodgily placed O-ring for the integrity of the seal.

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 02:15

QUOTE (troglokev @ Nov 28 2008, 07:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They were probably not sealed correctly. If air gets in through the threads rather than through the feed, Bad Things happen to the flow regulation. A capful of Heart Of Darkness is a likely and undesirable outcome.


I have a handful of these, purchased converted, and of the 5 I've inked 2 have had the ink leak through the area up by the feed and drip all over out around the nib. Is this the problem? If I improve the seal at the threads will the ink (theoretically) come out only through the nib and not all around it? I'd basically given them up as a lost cause.

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 02:49

QUOTE (aymr @ Nov 29 2008, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a handful of these, purchased converted, and of the 5 I've inked 2 have had the ink leak through the area up by the feed and drip all over out around the nib. Is this the problem? If I improve the seal at the threads will the ink (theoretically) come out only through the nib and not all around it? I'd basically given them up as a lost cause.

It's the most likely cause, yes. If you need more than a smear of silicone grease on the O-ring to prevent the ink from escaping, you don't have a good seal. Most eyedropper conversions I've seen are caked with the stuff, because the grease is providing the airtight seal, not the O-ring. The sealing surfaces should be parallel, smooth and clean, and should compress the O-ring about 20% of its diameter (between 5 and 30% is okay). Hard to acheive on a preppy, I would think: hence the gunk, and the problems.

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Posted 29 November 2008 - 05:15

QUOTE (aymr @ Nov 28 2008, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (troglokev @ Nov 28 2008, 07:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They were probably not sealed correctly. If air gets in through the threads rather than through the feed, Bad Things happen to the flow regulation. A capful of Heart Of Darkness is a likely and undesirable outcome.


I have a handful of these, purchased converted, and of the 5 I've inked 2 have had the ink leak through the area up by the feed and drip all over out around the nib. Is this the problem? If I improve the seal at the threads will the ink (theoretically) come out only through the nib and not all around it? I'd basically given them up as a lost cause.

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On of mine had that problem. I gave it a clockwise twist while pushing upward, which luckily sealed the leak.

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Posted 02 December 2008 - 01:42

QUOTE (thefsb @ Mar 27 2008, 07:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All of the 4 preppy reviews here describe it as a very smooth writer. I got one yesterday and it's a rough, horrid writer. I was expecting something as good as a Varsity but no. I ordered the red and the color is a violent pink-orange-red. Hideous. I replaced the ink with Tiananmen. Didn't make it write any smoother. Maybe I'm just unlucky and got a bad sample.


I bought a few Preppys: a blue-black, a yellow, a pink, a red, a green--well, okay, just about every color.

I tried out the yellow first. Both nib and ink were horrific. But the other colors are well-behaved, nice, smooth writers.

They must have poor quallity control or something.


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Posted 02 December 2008 - 14:19

QUOTE (Sailor Kenshin @ Dec 1 2008, 07:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (thefsb @ Mar 27 2008, 07:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All of the 4 preppy reviews here describe it as a very smooth writer. I got one yesterday and it's a rough, horrid writer. I was expecting something as good as a Varsity but no. I ordered the red and the color is a violent pink-orange-red. Hideous. I replaced the ink with Tiananmen. Didn't make it write any smoother. Maybe I'm just unlucky and got a bad sample.


I bought a few Preppys: a blue-black, a yellow, a pink, a red, a green--well, okay, just about every color.

I tried out the yellow first. Both nib and ink were horrific. But the other colors are well-behaved, nice, smooth writers.

They must have poor quallity control or something.


+2. 5 minutes capped after use and they're hard to start, and I had to throw away the one with Noodler's permanent black, since even soak the nib couldn't unclog the feed.

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Posted 03 December 2008 - 13:45

QUOTE (thefsb @ Mar 28 2008, 12:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All of the 4 preppy reviews here describe it as a very smooth writer. I got one yesterday and it's a rough, horrid writer. I was expecting something as good as a Varsity but no. I ordered the red and the color is a violent pink-orange-red. Hideous. I replaced the ink with Tiananmen. Didn't make it write any smoother. Maybe I'm just unlucky and got a bad sample.

I bought 4 preppies at the same time and o0ut of the bunch 3 were smooth and one was scratchy - looks like you got the raw deal you could
try fixing it with some rough paper

So I'm opinionated - get over it!!.......No, really - get over it!!
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Posted 12 January 2009 - 22:30

I got my Platinum Preppy with Noodler's The Heart of Darkness. I've never had any troubles with it starting, even on the initial fill, and haven't run into it being so wet it drips ink. In fact, I would say its really all the wet of a writer. Its definitely not dry, but not what I would consider wet either.

I writes so nice that I find myself reaching for it more than my Retro 51 Scriptmaster, Faber Castell Ambition, AND my VP w/ its fine and medium nibs. Its crazy!

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Posted 16 January 2009 - 01:43

After replacing the horrible ink in my yellow Preppy with a mix of Rotring Red, Skrip Gold and a touch of Diamine Golden Brown, it writes MUCH, much better.

My other Preppys have all been smooth, care-free writers. The yellow Platinum ink, at least the ink that came in the cart inside the pen, was the problem.

I can see how these pens would make nice eyedropper fillers.

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Posted 03 February 2009 - 13:16

My comment regarding this pen is that it's the only pen I've got that can digest Noodlers Baystate Blue without fault. I wish I could find a higher quality pen that did that!

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Posted 07 February 2009 - 16:06

QUOTE (Pengrump @ Apr 3 2008, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (cmenice @ Mar 28 2008, 01:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
both preppy's I've gotten (with HOD and Nikita) have dropped ink on the page. They were super wet too. Pretty useless because you never know when a big drop of ink will come out. I think if the pen that comes with it sucks, don't put it in there and make the ink cheaper.


I just turned an ED Preppy back into a cartridge filler. It blobbed ink on the page as an ED filler and leaked out the threads. Apparently the little rubber o-ring was too loose and snagged in the cap repeatedly when I capped the pen. Anyway, I have a bunch of Platinum red cartridges I wanted to use, and where better to use them than in a pink Preppy?



If you have leaks or drips with an ED preppy, read the slip of paper that Noodler’s sends along w/ the free pen. It says:

“When you notice the ink level reaching 1/3 full, it is a good idea to refill the pen as the air in the barrel will expand due to the heat of your hand and may cause excessive flow.”

This has happened to me, and refilling the pen fixed the gushing/dripping at the nib. As for the o-ring, I found that it’s not needed. If you get some silicone grease at the hardware store (I spent less than $5 for a small tube), you can cover the threads with a even layer every time you refill the pen. A decent amount of silicone will make a tight seal without an o-ring, and keep the ink from leaking.