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#1 ppenloverr

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 01:21

i got a green phileas from abroad and i found out just after writing with it that it is fine nib. a bit weird about it as i normally use medium nib. i thought phileas only do medium nib. it writes beautifully on rodhia paper. the ink is prussian blue by diamina.
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#2 Shangas

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 01:30

I dropped by the Pen Place in Queen Street, Melbourne last week to buy some yummy new, fat-free ink for my pens, and I had a peek at the Waterman Phileases (Phileai?) in the 'WATERMAN' display case. I like the look of the blue one very much. Perhaps one day I shall buy one with a Fine nib.

What are peoples' experiences with the Waterman Phileas?
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#3 ppenloverr

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 01:36

QUOTE(Shangas @ Dec 4 2007, 01:30 AM) View Post
I dropped by the Pen Place in Queen Street, Melbourne last week to buy some yummy new, fat-free ink for my pens, and I had a peek at the Waterman Phileases (Phileai?) in the 'WATERMAN' display case. I like the look of the blue one very much. Perhaps one day I shall buy one with a Fine nib.

What are peoples' experiences with the Waterman Phileas?

i think it is an awesome pen. i was between the blue and the green and the green won cos it has too colors like black green. where the blue is a more uniform blue.... in any case i love the pen i love the huuuuuuuuuuugeeeeeeeeee nib it is far too big for the pen but i like it it make the pen looks important. great value. recomended in this website i can not be more happy about it...
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Posted 04 December 2007 - 01:42

The Phileas although quite inexpensive is an incredible writer. It is my only pen that does not choke on poor quality paper stock that I have to put up to at work. it is worth every penny for being such a reliable fountain pen.

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 01:57

The Phileas is IMHO a solid reliable pen. Have been using mine (an early red/black/white marble) for several years and have not been dissapointed. Starts up well, nib is smooth, decorated just enough to keep it from looking plain. Have posted it enough so the blind cap/barrel end shows some wear ---bit a simichrome polish takes care of that. T'is good value for the money---especially when Office Depot has a just before Xmas sale at 1/2 retail.

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 02:05

Great starter pens. I used one my Dad got me for years until I sold it to finance a Carene. Good performance for the money. thumbup.gif

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 02:34

As fate would have it, I got my pair of Waterman Kulturs with fine nibs in the mail today. I haven't done much with them so far, but I love the look. I have Levenger's green in one and a Waterman cartridge in the other. The Kultur is essentially a lesser Phileas as I understand it. The cap is a lot lighter because it has no brass in it, and the pen is translucent.

I want to pick up a Phileas at the right price when the time comes. I do believe Waterman has discontinued the Phileas, though.

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 04:35

ppenloverr I know where you can get a medium nib for your Phileas in place of the fine. Look here for a Marketplace listing from last week in which a member wants to trade his medium for a fine.

Edited by Doug Add, 04 December 2007 - 04:38.


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Posted 04 December 2007 - 13:42

I'm another happy Phileas owner. I think they're great pens! I have two...one in blue & one in black, and I don't use them nearly as much as I should. They start up immediately every time, and they're smooooth writers right out of the box. For an excellent, low-priced FP, you can't go wrong with the Phileas. thumbup.gif

Edited by Bill Grass, 04 December 2007 - 13:43.

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#10 Shangas

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 13:49

I'm sold. **Makes Phileas next purchase-decision**

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 14:23

I have a Phileas with an M nib. It starts and writes reliably if I roll it to the left about 20 degrees. That makes it a round, left-footed oblique nib. I didn't even have to pay extra for that feature. Didn't request it, either.

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 23:10

QUOTE(Doug Add @ Dec 4 2007, 04:35 AM) View Post
ppenloverr I know where you can get a medium nib for your Phileas in place of the fine. Look here for a Marketplace listing from last week in which a member wants to trade his medium for a fine.

thank you. but to be honest the more i write with this nib the more i like it.... it is just awesome. but thank you anyway...
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Posted 04 December 2007 - 23:12

Is it discontinued or not? it's no longer on the Waterman site

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 00:30

QUOTE(Garageboy @ Dec 4 2007, 11:12 PM) View Post
Is it discontinued or not? it's no longer on the Waterman site

i bought mine from a shop in madrid. so still there are some around but you can not get it in england at all. maybe on the web there are loads of them.... thumbup.gif
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Posted 05 December 2007 - 00:43

The Phileas is the second pen I picked up in my return to using fountain pens. For the price, the Phileas has to be one of the best bargains out there. I have found it to be a great day to day writer and despite using fine nibs in the past, the medium nib that came with mine has been quite pleasant to write with.

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 00:57

The Phileas was one of my first; and it's a horse. I can carry it pocketed, in a bag, in my jacket pocket, on a plane, and I will know without a doubt that there will be no leaking, no gushing, no slow-starting. It's a smooth, solid line (using black Noodlers, btw), great for notes and sketching. (Noodlers dries a little slow, especially in the Moleskine, but that's not a Phileas issue, obviously.) Cap snaps closed with feeling and doesn't loosen over time (not yet at least); posts firmly and smoothly without scratching or wiggling. My particular one is blue/black marbled with gold trim, and while not the most beautiful thing in my estimate, it's certainly easy on the eyes.

For a first pen, trusty, low-maintenance, I really really love it.

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 00:58

ooops, forgot to mention, the price is amazingly reasonable. Among the lowest of what I'd call mid-range pricing, really a worthwhile bargain.

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 04:46

You've finally done it, people!

You made me buy a Waterman Phileas.

Interesting story, actually. Dad and I went to the local flea-market today (Sunday), to look around and see what cute little treasures we could find...I lie...I was looking for my Duofold...Anyway, we found four pens. One of them looked like an English Duofold in very bad condition, one of them was a Conway-Stewart lever-filler with a petrified sac, one of them...I don't know what the hell it was...

And the last one was a green Waterman Phileas. I recognised it from the ribbing on the section and the conical barrel-end. It's green with black ends on the barrel and the cap. The clip is firmly in-place. The nib is in wonderful condition and has 'F' for fine, engraved into it.

Now, I don't know how many of you do this, but I actually brought a bottle of ink and paper with me today when I went to that market, JUST so that I could test any pens I found. OUT came the bottle and paper. Dippy-dippy-shake, scribble-scribble.

The pen wrote wonderfully and is nice and smooth. It doesn't have a converter but it did have an empty cartridge which once held blue ink. It took me about 20 minutes to wash the cartridge AND the nib & feed of blue ink when I got home. I flushed it out, dried it and using a syringe, I refilled the cartridge with black ink.

I'm very happy with my purchase. I paid this very nice lady $50 for it. Ten down from her original $60.

I just have one question - Will I be able to buy a converter for my new Phileas? What should I look for?
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Posted 09 December 2007 - 05:06

Love my Phileas but have to admit to not having it in rotation in a long while. I have a blue marble color one that I picked up in Atlanta on a business trip. It is a medium and these days I prefer a Fine nib. Another reason is that I don't have a converter for it so I have only used Waterman Florida Blue long carts in it. I just pulled out my Carene thinking "I'll try the converter from it and see if it works." Silly me, I forgot that I don't have a coverter for the Carene either! I pulled out all of my various converters and found one that fit the nipple nicely but the pen body won't thread back on with it in place. Down in the barrel is a brass insert that blocks me from using the converter!? Now like Shangas I am wondering if there is a converter for this pen? How about the Carene does it have a converter?

#20 Shangas

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 05:22

My Phileas isn't...anything, really. It's not marbled. I had a look at the current lineup of Phileas colours and I THINK mine is just solid jet-black, apart from the gold banding. But the main sections of the barrel & cap look like VERY dark green...or it might be my eyes playing tricks on me.

I seem to remember that new Phileases come with a converter. Is this a specific kind of converter, or can I just drop by a pen-shop and ask for a standard Waterman-style converter?
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Posted 09 December 2007 - 05:35

I have about a half dozen or so Phileas pens of various kinds- they've never let me down. I've used a Phileas of one sort or another since they came out years ago. They're great pens in general.

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 07:57

I just bought one today... haven't tried it out yet...

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 11:52

I just wrote two entire pages of diary-entry with my new Phileas. It's a charmer on the page! Dances across the paper in a swirling, inky ballet...
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Posted 24 December 2007 - 22:36

QUOTE(Ghost Plane @ Dec 4 2007, 02:05 AM) View Post
Great starter pens. I used one my Dad got me for years until I sold it to finance a Carene. Good performance for the money. thumbup.gif

LOL! that's what I was thinking while using my Phileas, but I think I'll be patient and save to buy the Carene (black/GT, current choice) lticaptd.gif
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Posted 25 December 2007 - 00:57

I have a blue marbled Phileas and I love it. It is the smoothest pen I have, smoother than my 2 Parker 51s. It uses a standard Waterman converter.

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Posted 25 December 2007 - 00:57

Hello Shangas,

Yes, a standard Waterman converter will work nicely in a Phileas or a Kultur. Using the converter allows me to use a much wider range of ink colors versus cartridges. By the way, a long or short Waterman cartridge will also work in the Phileas/Kultur. And the barrels, caps and sections of the Phileas are interchangeable with the Kultur. A very versatile, inexpensive good writer don't you think?

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Posted 25 December 2007 - 04:30

Excellent pen! Writes very well, far better than pens that cost many times as much. I only wish that it was a bit heavier since I am partial to pens made of metal. Never cared for plastic, not even the "precious" plastic of pens costing ten times as much that do not seem to write as well smile.gif
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Posted 25 December 2007 - 13:38

Ah! I hear my cue! laugh.gif For luscious Waterman writing and heavier/metal, get your hands on a Carene. Brass body underneath the finishes is nearly indestructible, luscious colors, weightier and oh those inlaid nibs! Juicy writing. cloud9.gif

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Posted 25 December 2007 - 15:25

QUOTE(Ghost Plane @ Dec 25 2007, 07:38 AM) View Post
Ah! I hear my cue! laugh.gif For luscious Waterman writing and heavier/metal, get your hands on a Carene. Brass body underneath the finishes is nearly indestructible, luscious colors, weightier and oh those inlaid nibs! Juicy writing. cloud9.gif


Thanks for the recommendation! I am drooling on myself. I have seen and held the Carene, but never written with one. How is the Charleston? Styling looks similar to a Phileas, but I have not had a chance to handle one.
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Posted 25 December 2007 - 18:08

They're light. The nib is a tad small for the body [visually], but writes much the same as the Phileas. Good width, but too light for my preferences [I like a heavier pen]. I ended up selling mine as my fingers fall right on the decorative band or threads depending on how I held the pen. I hold my pens WAY back on the body. If it wasn't for the decorative band hitting my hand wrong and the light feel, I would've kept it.