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This was my first fountain pen that I got in San Francisco about 20 years ago. It seems that I paid $150-200 for this set, but cannot find this style anywhere. The closest is one called Noblesse Oblige, but that has a split clip, like this Ebay link, whereas mine is solid. I have always loved this pen. Although many of you are light years ahead of me in terms of pen experience and knowledge, when I show this to friends, I tell them that it "calls forth writing." I never liked the fatter Meisterstuck line as much. I'm trying to find out which pen model this is....and not sure if there is a website that lists past versions of Montblanc.

 

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http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/pike444/MB2s.jpg http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/pike444/MB1s.jpg http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h75/pike444/MB3s.jpg

With the new FPN rules, now I REALLY don't know what to put in my signature.

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The metal pen bodies, and the shape and design elements are definitely from the Noblesse Oblige series. While I can't find an online reference, I believe the solid clip edition would have been made for engraving a name or initials on the clips.

 

There are a number of websites that show Mont Blanc models, but they mostly don't have information on the Noblesse Oblige series. Two of my favorites are http://www.fountainpen.de (which has many pictures of past and present MBs) and http://www.maxpens.de (a repair shop site that has pictures of many rare old MB's)

 

 

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My Noblesse Oblige has "Noblesse Oblige" on the cap band. And the clip is definitely different. Oh yeah, mine is plastic body. And my snowflake has a bit of a dome - yours looks flat.

 

But I am sure there are different versions...

 

good luck!

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Thanks for your help. Mine looks to be the same color of deep navy blue as this one, but I notice theirs is 14K Gold on nib, vs. mine which says 18K. Is the difference in gold K purely cosmetic?

 

Also, do you know what the number on the nib means? This website says # 585 and mine is #750

With the new FPN rules, now I REALLY don't know what to put in my signature.

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Also, do you know what the number on the nib means? This website says # 585 and mine is #750

 

14k = 585, i.e. it is .585 pure

 

18k = 750 (18/24 = .750)

 

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Also, do you know what the number on the nib means? This website says # 585 and mine is #750

 

14k = 585, i.e. it is .585 pure

 

18k = 750 (18/24 = .750)

 

Thanks! Now is it more likely that is cosmetic or does it actually affect nib writing quality if more % gold?

With the new FPN rules, now I REALLY don't know what to put in my signature.

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Gold content should not affect actual writing quality, but it does affect how the nib 'feels' to the writer. Nibs with high gold content feel softer and maybe more responsive.

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The Noblesse Oblige line is the later generation of the SL/Slimline/Noblesse pens from the mid-late 1970s. The original line started as a step up from the entry-level student-grade Carrera line, and were characterized by very simple lines, all-metal bodies, cartridge/converter filling system. They were originally made mostly in brushed-stainless, black-stainless, matte color, and gold-plated finishes, and often with steel nibs. The later Noblesse Oblige line added colored laquers and more precioius-metal finishes. Mont Blanc constantly fiddled with the designs in the line over the years.

 

The SL/Slimline/Noblesse (and the related VIP-pen) and later Noblesse Oblige lines are a fairly neglected area of Mont Blanc collecting.. they tend to be much more affordable than the Meisterstuck series (nevermind the exotic vintage pens!), and the brushed-stainless Noblesse that I have is a consistently great writer, even though it has a steel nib.

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Thanks for your help. Mine looks to be the same color of deep navy blue as this one, but I notice theirs is 14K Gold on nib, vs. mine which says 18K. Is the difference in gold K purely cosmetic?

 

Also, do you know what the number on the nib means? This website says # 585 and mine is #750

 

That pen in the pic is the one I have too. For those of you in the know - that is the fur pen!

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I love the Noblesse line. I have an original 70s nickel steel FP that writes like a dream. Nice to hold too. The later lacquer ones are even prettier looking. Congratulations! Great pens!

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