Sheaffer Jr.

[Nathaniel Harter]

Last week, I bought this pen on ebay, for only $9.99 (+$5 Shipping). I am trying to get a collection of Teen's and Twenty's Sheaffers, so far I have 3. This one is missing a sac, and possibly a pressure bar. I haven't been able to get it open yet. I will post some pictures after I clean it up, but here's the ebay ones.

[3rdlakerobert]

I believe these Juniors were the originals (before streamlined Balance Juniors) made in the early Balance era, i.e., early 30s, and called "semi-streamlined" by Sheaffer in their catalogs. The 33 nib however I would suspect is a replacement for the Junior nib, a nib actually signed "Junior."

 

I have the two gray semi-streamlined Juniors and a blue. A black is in transit. I believe these four will constitute a complete set of this model, and all have the imprint, "Sheaffer Junior."

[kirchh]

Note that this pen is not from the teens or twenties; it's from the mid-1930s. It has a replacement nib; the original nib would say "Junior".

 

--Daniel

[Nathaniel Harter]

Note that this pen is not from the teens or twenties; it's from the mid-1930s. It has a replacement nib; the original nib would say "Junior".

 

--Daniel

Where could I get a correct nib?

[kirchh]

I have the two gray semi-streamlined Juniors and a blue. A black is in transit. I believe these four will constitute a complete set of this model, and all have the imprint, "Sheaffer Junior."

 

Note that the pen came in both the red-veined Grey Pearl and the marbled Grey Pearl.

 

--Daniel

[texascharlie]

It also came in a striated red and a ebonized pearl.

[kirchh]

It also came in a striated red and a ebonized pearl.

Not the semi-streamlined model.

 

--Daniel

[crescentfiller]

Not the semi-streamlined model.

 

--Daniel

 

 

Don't you mean the "semi-straightlined" model?

 

 

Regards,

Daniel

[kirchh]

 

 

Don't you mean the "semi-straightlined" model?

 

 

Regards,

Daniel

I would if Sheaffer had called it that...

 

--Daniel

[Lazard 20]

Note that this pen is not from the teens or twenties; it's from the mid-1930s. It has a replacement nib; the original nib would say "Junior".

 

--Daniel

Only would say "Junior", or would say "Junior", or "JUNIOR" or either both?

 

On the other hand and disconnected with my first subparagraph, if fully streamlined balance Junior models was fitted with both nib "Junior" or nib "33" ¿how can we know that occasionally the Junior semi-streamlined in shape could not be fitted from Sheaffer´S with a nib "33" too as our fountain pen at hand. How you know that this "33" nib was not mounted originally from Sheaffer´S factory?

Edited April 18, 2015 by Lazard 20

[3rdlakerobert]

 

Only would say "Junior", or would say "Junior", or "JUNIOR" or either both?

 

On the other hand and disconnected with my first subparagraph, if fully streamlined balance Junior models was fitted with both nib "Junior" or nib "33" ¿how can we know that occasionally the Junior semi-streamlined in shape could not be fitted from Sheaffer´S with a nib "33" too as our fountain pen at hand. How you know that this "33" nib was not mounted originally from Sheaffer´S factory?

 

 

 

In my experienece, early nibs have "Junior" in block letters; later nibs have cursive. I can only guess when the change actually occured, but it seems to me the semi-streamlined pens are the ones with the block lettering. Also, again a small detail, but the barrel imprint on all the semi-streamlined Juniors I've seen is "SHEAFFER JUNIOR."

[3rdlakerobert]

 

Note that the pen came in both the red-veined Grey Pearl and the marbled Grey Pearl.

 

--Daniel

 

Also in black and in blue.

[3rdlakerobert]

It also came in a striated red and a ebonized pearl.

 

I don't think so.

[3rdlakerobert]

Where could I get a correct nib?

 

Probably from a parts vendor. Look for the nib with "Junior" in block letters. See my earlier post.

[3rdlakerobert]

 

Only would say "Junior", or would say "Junior", or "JUNIOR" or either both?

 

On the other hand and disconnected with my first subparagraph, if fully streamlined balance Junior models was fitted with both nib "Junior" or nib "33" ¿how can we know that occasionally the Junior semi-streamlined in shape could not be fitted from Sheaffer´S with a nib "33" too as our fountain pen at hand. How you know that this "33" nib was not mounted originally from Sheaffer´S factory?

 

 

I suppose we can't know that, but that scenario is much less likely than one in which the nib is replaced by an owner who needed a replacement for some reason.

[kirchh]

Also in black and in blue.

 

That was already stated in the post I quoted.

 

--Daniel

[kirchh]

Only would say "Junior", or would say "Junior", or "JUNIOR" or either both?

Right.

 

On the other hand and disconnected with my first subparagraph, if fully streamlined balance Junior models was fitted with both nib "Junior" or nib "33" ¿how can we know that occasionally the Junior semi-streamlined in shape could not be fitted from Sheaffer´S with a nib "33" too as our fountain pen at hand. How you know that this "33" nib was not mounted originally from Sheaffer´S factory?

Please present your evidence that the streamlined Balance Junior was fitted with the "33" nib, and also that the "33" nib was made during the time the semi-streamlined Junior was produced.

 

--Daniel

[Lazard 20]

Please present your evidence that the streamlined Balance Junior was fitted with the "33" nib, and also that the "33" nib was made during the time the semi-streamlined Junior was produced.(*)

 

--Daniel

 

You walk out the tangent and not answer my question, so again we get "rigth to the point": How you know that this "33" nib was not mounted originally from Sheaffer´S factory?

 

(*) I am not interested at your tangential point but if you want to illustrate to others I think you should present evidence that all semi-streamlined Junior was shipped from the Sheaffer´S factory before the first "33" nib was produced.

 

Right.

 

 

Thanks.

 

Please present your evidence that the streamlined Balance Junior was fitted with the "33" nib, and also that the "33" nib was made during the time the semi-streamlined Junior was produced.

 

--Daniel

 

Here's Sheaffer´S specifications with "33" nib in Junior.

http://s7.postimg.org/h5e9v3kfv/Sheaffer_Junior_nib_33_23_Lazard.jpg

 

 

So, how you know that this "33" nib was not mounted originally from Sheaffer´S factory?

Edited April 19, 2015 by Lazard 20

[FredRydr]

[3rdlakerobert]

"So, how you know that this "33" nib was not mounted originally from Sheaffer´S factory?"

 

Hard to read anything from this copy, but he date is 1940. Pens like the OP's would have left Fort Madison 5 or more years earlier. Hard to see how this material is relevant to the OP's question.