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Cap Clip Removal/tightening On Waterman Commando/stalwart?


Stuart07

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I have just received a 1940s Waterman Stalwart (Canadian) pen. Everythingt looks fine except cap clip is loose. The Commando model seems to use the same style clip with round stud on top of cap. This stud seems loose, but my attempt to tighten using Richard Binder's rubber "stud & jewel turner" doesn't tighten or loosen it. Is this simply riveted in place? Can it be tightened or must it be removed and replaced?

 

I have searched google and pen sites and can find nothing on this topic. Has anyone here run into this problem?

 

As always, many many thanks for any help..

Stuart07

 

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I recently got a Stalwart with the same problem. And yes, it does seem to use the same round stud. I've peered into the cap and I think I see the bottom of a rivet in there. I haven't done it yet, but I'm thinking that the way to tighten everything up is to put a properly sized rod into the cap and tap the rivet tight again.

 

If you try this before I do, please post the results.

 

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Thanx for the suggestion. I did not think of it, but it appears to make sense. Since there have been no other replies to the question I assume no one else here has run into this or has dismantled one of these caps. The other possibility, I suppose, is that your "fix" may be the best approach there is for this...

 

Thank you,

Stuart

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Many pen mechanics don't even try to repair or replace Waterman rivets.

 

The clips are riveted on, and sometimes can be tightened by using a steel rod inside to flair out the rivet and tighten it down a bit more. Other times the end of the rivet breaks off. It may be possible on occasion to drill the center of the rivet, tap and then use a stainless screw and washer from inside to tighten it down. It's usually easier for me to machine a new one out of brass, tap, and gold plate, then use the stainless screw.

 

This is a cap with a rivet that I made.

http://www.mainstreetpens.com/pix/HYPrivet.jpg

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In addition to being a wonderful guy, there is nothing beyond your capabilities.

 

This is AWEsome in all respects.

 

 

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Ron, this is remarkable...and clearly beyond my capability. You have answered my question though I wish it were otherwise. It seems to me that the cost of such a repair is likely beyond the value of this particular model unless there were personal attachment to a certain pen. It seems I will just have to hope that tightening the rivet via splaying the flange does the trick. If not, I suppose there is always the possibility of using an appropriate adhesive - although not all that "professional" and with the caveat that the pen should never be clipped to one's shirt pocket...Aaahh, well - foiled again!

Stuart

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there is nothing beyond your capabilities.

 

Thanks for the vote of confidence, but there are many things that I can not do. Believe me! I like to try though. :)

 

 

 

It seems I will just have to hope that tightening the rivet via splaying the flange does the trick.

 

You have nothing to lose by trying. Use a rod that has been filed to a bit of a broad taper at the end, with the point about 1/8" in diameter. Big nails can be turned into all kinds of tools..... (hint)

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Ron,

 

Aaahhhh, so...Illumination hath verily appeared in the darkness of my understanding...

 

(bowing respectfully in gratitude)

Stuart

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