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I am hoping some bodies could help me with this.

 

Noodler's has a very nice chart that helps break down their inks' attributes. However, some of the colors in the area of bulletproof that are also eternal are not that exciting to me. I am looking for a beautiful warm reddish golden brown (I love pelican brilliant brown and diamine ancient copper, but they don't seem to have the attributes I want) but also love so many other colors. I want to write checks, mail envelopes that won't smear with a drop of rain. I would love it to look beautiful in my pilot falcon EF.

 

Is there anything out there, other than Noodler's that will fit the bill?

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The only brown ink that are permanent (that I know of) is Platinum Pigment Sepia.

 

I would think that mixing that with Pelikan Brilliant Brown/Diamine Ancient Copper would give you what you're looking for. YMMV.

 

 

 

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That would be an interesting experiment. I've read that sometimes the properties aren't necessarily carried over or don't mix well. I'm surprised that there aren't other manufacturers advertising these attributes. It almost seems like Noodler's is the only game in town in this area. Don't get me wrong, I have various Noodler's inks that I just love.

 

Based on your suggestion, I could start with perhaps Noodler's polar brown and add the reddish colors to it to see if the properties carry over. Has anyone tried that? If i have no choice other than Noodler's, how about fox red and polar brown?

 

Just hopin for a straightforward solution.

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I haven't seen that brown. Is it specific to one vendor?

It's a FPN exclusive. Check it out. It's gorgeous. Under support FPN, then clink on the inks link. Enjoy.

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Unfortunately, there doesn't appear to be anything available under the FPN support/inks. Is there a secret place to find it? I am also finding that the website link doesn't quite work that well on my tablet and had to go to a computer. Didn't see any inks or products.

 

I am also open to other bulletproof color inks besides Noodler's. For the brown I may have to resort to mixing a couple of Noodler's bulletproof inks for the brown I want.

 

It would be nice to find an interesting palette of colors that fall along the bulletproof/eternal category that are not all dull and muted.

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Ok, this time I tried signing in and it showed up. Is there a example of it anywhere to see how it looks?

 

Thanks!

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I'm sure there is a review on here somewhere. If not I'll be posting one soon.

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Wow! Thank you cyber6! The two scans look like different colors. The top looks more burgundy color, like it has more purple tone. The bottom one is more reddish brown, more of the color I want. The white balance is off on the bottom one, I.e., if the paper is supposed to be white. But, as far as the actual color of the ink, which is more accurate?

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Wow! Thank you cyber6! The two scans look like different colors. The top looks more burgundy color, like it has more purple tone. The bottom one is more reddish brown, more of the color I want. The white balance is off on the bottom one, I.e., if the paper is supposed to be white. But, as far as the actual color of the ink, which is more accurate?

 

Sorry.. I did that at 3am .. I was half asleep... :P.

 

There are not "two scans"... is one scan and one crappy iPhone (old iPhone) pic. No white balance on it. That's how it looks under fluorescent lighting.

 

The truth is always somewhere in the middle. Is a reddish brown that is more red than brown. If you get my drift.

 

There are several reviews of it... some make it look totally brown and some totally red. I believe the batch variation on this ink is a clear indication that it has never been produced in large enough amounts. It just varies way too much batch from batch.

 

 

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I love Diamine Ancient Copper, but use it less because it is not waterproof. I will have to look into Galileo manuscript. Thank you very much Cyber6 for bring it up.

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I wonder if mixing Black Swan in Australian Roses with #41 Brown would yield something similar. I have both and use #41 Brown as my "manuscript" ink (whatever that is! I like to use it on golden parchment paper with a 1.5 stub nib. But, adding a little red to it would make it even better.

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That sounds like a good idea. Just remember that mixing waterproof with standard inks you will reduced the waterproof effect.

 

 

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I ordered the Galileo manuscript ink. It does look like what I'm looking for, at least in some pictures.

 

However, I am curious about mixing two bulletproof, eternal inks together, like fox red and polar brown (or similar), and hopefully get another color with the parents' attributes. I will report back with the results.

 

The reason I asked about E/B inks other than Noodler's is because I wasn't crazy about the color selection. It would be nice to find a Florida blue or a peacock turquoise, I.e., more exciting colors that are more permanent.

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By the way, I love diamine's ancient copper, too, but I've been finding goop on my nib. The same thing happens with Private Reserve Spearmint (gorgeous rich green), and I'm noticing some also from Diamine Oxblood, too (another beautiful redder/brown)...besides the non-permanent issue.

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It would be nice to find a Florida blue or a peacock turquoise, I.e., more exciting colors that are more permanent.

 

 

You need to seriously consider Iron Gall Inks. Follow the second link in my signature. "Full List of KWZ Inks".. Look at #27 IG Turquoise .. the shading is just crazy and the color is vibrant and totally permanent.

 

 

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Hmmm....., I never heard of KWZI inks. Glad to hear there are other ink companies.

 

...but I've read that iron gall inks are highly corosive. (?)

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Hmmm....., I never heard of KWZI inks. Glad to hear there are other ink companies.

 

...but I've read that iron gall inks are highly corosive. (?)

 

Modern Iron Gall inks are not corrosive. I use them all the time.

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