Before I Kill The Nib, Stop Me!

[OcalaFlGuy]

There's another way to look at this.

 

I would contend that in The Quality of the grind, there is no difference between the dremel and hand ground. After all, ALL the

nibmeisters, whatever particular power tool they use, still finish the grind by hand.

 

Where there IS any improvement with the dremel, is Speed.

 

When you have people stacked up like cordwood at a show ALL wanting nib grinds done yesterday, you NEED speed.

 

When you're grinding a nib here and there, you don't need that speed. You just don't.

 

It's an Unnecessary Increased risk for a Newer non-Pro grinder.

 

Bruce in Ocala, Fl

[gweimer1]

^^^^ what he said. I ventured into the nib grind territory after reading a few threads here. I had taken Richard Binder's nib tuning class, but never tried shaping a nib. Grinding, to me, is pretty much just advanced and aggressive tuning.

 

I tried a couple by hand with 2000 grit sandpaper and the tools I have for tuning nibs. It didn't take that long, still required me to work cautiously, and I had to stop and check progress. The end result was a Waterman nib that came to me pretty beat, that is now a really smooth sort of broad italic. It's sitting in my Morrison pen.

[dneal]

There's another way to look at this.

 

I would contend that in The Quality of the grind, there is no difference between the dremel and hand ground. After all, ALL the

nibmeisters, whatever particular power tool they use, still finish the grind by hand.

 

Where there IS any improvement with the dremel, is Speed.

 

When you have people stacked up like cordwood at a show ALL wanting nib grinds done yesterday, you NEED speed.

 

When you're grinding a nib here and there, you don't need that speed. You just don't.

 

It's an Unnecessary Increased risk for a Newer non-Pro grinder.

 

Bruce in Ocala, Fl

 

I have more control with a rotary tool than with flat stones. I think there are times that having a tool do the work allows you to focus more closely on precision. I'd much rather turn something on a lathe than use a spoke shave, especially if I wanted it perfectly round. It's certainly easier to get a more exact diameter. You're right that the final smoothing (especially the inner tines) needs to be done by hand though.

 

Speed (as in RPM's) is a danger. I suspect that a lot of folks crank their Dremels up to the 35,000 or so max RPM setting. You do have a smaller margin of error then. The lower speeds (around 5k on the variable models and 10k on the two speed models) allow for a lot more control of material removal.

[Ambien]

Well, on the plus side Pelikan m200 nibs are affordable to replace :]

 

Although, I might want to practice a few times before starting on it just to be on the safe side.

[Oldtimer]

I am not screwing my first Job, I tell you. First I have been used to delicate small thingies all my life. Professionally, I mean; like things through microscopes, scanning electron microscopes, the whole thing. I already did it and doing it at a very slooooow pace that some men are not used to. It's a job for a woman! Already worked with THAT stone on the Pelikan , the Esterbrook oblique , after that used 1800, 2000 paper.Ahhh, also a VP with a hello of ball nib! Writing finer and smoothly now. Why do you think I couldn't do it for starters ? I do realize most people rush into it at the beginning. That's the failure right there.

Edited March 23, 2015 by Oldtimer

[kirchh]

I am not screwing my first Job, I tell you. First I have been used to delicate small thingies all my life. Professionally, I mean; like things through microscopes, scanning electron microscopes, the whole thing. I already did it and doing it at a very slooooow pace that some men are not used to. It's a job for a woman! Already worked with THAT stone on the Pelikan , the Esterbrook oblique , after that used 1800, 2000 paper.Ahhh, also a VP with a hello of ball nib! Writing finer and smoothly now. Why do you think I couldn't do it for starters ? I do realize most people rush into it at the beginning. That's the failure right there.

 

A couple of questions.

 

Why did you entitle your post, "Before I Kill The Nib, Stop Me!"?

 

Why did you ask, "Could I use this to accomplish that?" if you were going to ignore the negative responses?

 

--Daniel

[Freddy]

Fascinatin'.........

 

Fred

Popes come and go, but the Curia goes on forever

~ Damon Linker ~

[Sasha Royale]

STOP !

 

Who told you that you knew anything about grinding nibs ?

 

STOP !

 

Once you destroy the nib, nobody will want it. Not even you.

 

STOP !

 

Did you consider selling the unwanted nib and buying one of the desired size ?

[Oldtimer]

 

A couple of questions.

 

Why did you entitle your post, "Before I Kill The Nib, Stop Me!"?

 

Why did you ask, "Could I use this to accomplish that?" if you were going to ignore the negative responses?

 

--Daniel

 

 

Just because I can.

 

 

And no, I am not ignoring the negative responses. Every one responds according to their own experiences and some responses were good and some others were bad, so I choose to analyze all of them and decide my course of action because that is my prerogative. You could also have taken my question as made in the spirit of a joke, which I think some people did and I did ask half in the spirit of a joke.

 

Some people have innate skills for some things, others don't, so I cannot take every response as the Law written on stone. I am proceeding with CAUTION given all the negative responses. I think I am doing the right thing by experimenting and if I do something wrong, I bet I will laugh at myself later. I don't sweat the small things. And id I do, it is not going to be because of lack of caution and careful consideration of all the inputs. That is why I asked.

 

Thank you all!

Edited March 24, 2015 by Oldtimer

[Oldtimer]

STOP !

 

Who told you that you knew anything about grinding nibs ?

 

STOP !

 

Once you destroy the nib, nobody will want it. Not even you.

 

STOP !

 

Did you consider selling the unwanted nib and buying one of the desired size ?

My dear: there was a time that those that now KNOW something, did't even know how to talk, walk or do poopoo properly. That's life. Those that don't dare to learn are doomed to stay ignorant.

 

[kirchh]

 

Just because I can.

 

 

I'll decline to respond to your requests for advice in the future. I've learned my lesson.

 

--Daniel

[ironwampa]

Buy a pen that you can put cheaper nibs in and use that instead. A Noodlers Ahab is 20 dollars and you can buy cheap replacement nibs.

[3rdlakerobert]

 

 

Just because I can.

 

 

And no, I am not ignoring the negative responses. Every one responds according to their own experiences and some responses were good and some others were bad, so I choose to analyze all of them and decide my course of action because that is my prerogative. You could also have taken my question as made in the spirit of a joke, which I think some people did and I did ask half in the spirit of a joke.

 

Some people have innate skills for some things, others don't, so I cannot take every response as the Law written on stone. I am proceeding with CAUTION given all the negative responses. I think I am doing the right thing by experimenting and if I do something wrong, I bet I will laugh at myself later. I don't sweat the small things. And id I do, it is not going to be because of lack of caution and careful consideration of all the inputs. That is why I asked.

 

Thank you all!

 

My dear: there was a time that those that now KNOW something, did't even know how to talk, walk or do poopoo properly. That's life. Those that don't dare to learn are doomed to stay ignorant.

 

 

 

I am woman. Hear me roar!