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Does any one know how to figure out the approximate time a particular Onoto pen was made? I found no marking indicating model number on this pen.

 

 

Any help will be greatly appreciated!

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Any dimensions for it? Any model numbers would have been in very small letters on the plunger end, usually readable with the pen standing nib upright.

 

The real expert is Steve Hull. His book on Onotos may be published this year, but people have been saying that since 2012.

 

Without a definitive reference work or the dimensions for the pen, my response is going to involve a fair bit of guesswork and waving of hands.

Section shape, pen shape & clip shape all say 'post 1930'.

Nib with #5 on it says that it's not a Magna (they have #7) or a 63xx or 56xx series (which have a '3' on the nib and look proportionately more slender). Overall shape looks a bit like a celluloid & rubber 'Junior'. I believe these were 1930's and 1948-54. Beyond that, I'm sorry, I don't know.

 

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Yes I would have opined late 1930s - early 1950s. - a 5605 perhaps?

 

And on the subject of Onotos, can anyone give me an idea of when Onoto ended manufacture of pens with over/under feeds?

 

Rgds

 

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I believe it was during WW1, so around guessing1916 having started 1909. Photos of adverts being sold on E-bay over the years show some WW1 pens with over feeds and others without. I've never really looked at the dates to find when the over feed disappeared from the ads. Their 1905-1909 pens had an underfeed only I'm told, but I have never seen a reference for this.

 

I wonder how one could tell a pre 1909 pen from a post 1916 one..?

 

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I believe it was during WW1, so around guessing1916 having started 1909. Photos of adverts being sold on E-bay over the years show some WW1 pens with over feeds and others without. I've never really looked at the dates to find when the over feed disappeared from the ads. Their 1905-1909 pens had an underfeed only I'm told, but I have never seen a reference for this.

 

I wonder how one could tell a pre 1909 pen from a post 1916 one..?

 

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Richard.

Yes I can imagine that that would be quite a challenge from what you say; did Onoto ever use finned (or comb) feeds? All mine have been quite plain.

 

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That looks very like my 6234 except mine is a pink and black model. Same pattern of bands and markings on barrel and the two tone 5 nib. It has a very long slender section, capped is exactly the same length as my 1873 Magna and when posted is even longer.

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Did Onoto ever use finned (or comb) feeds? All mine have been quite plain.

 

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I have 2 , including a Magna, with finned nibs.

 

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