Help Identifying A Pen I Threw Out A Long Time Ago.

[Chrissy]

http://penhero.com/PenGallery/Parker/Pics/ParkerVacumaticGoldenWeb13.jpg

Wow! What model is that Parker pen? It's wonderful

[NinthSphere]

Wow! What model is that Parker pen? It's wonderful

 

Parker Vac Golden Web.

[pendexter]

Disregard the following. I thought you were describing a transparent ink window, but I just realized that you were talking about a transparent bottle of ink...

 

The container which would hold the ink was trasparent.

 

Overall it sounds like you are describing a piston filler. But where exactly is this transparent container that holds the ink? Out of the pics that have been posted, I haven't seen any transparent components.

 

Is it an ink window like the image below? i.e. an ink window with the red/brown brick pattern...

 

Edited December 19, 2014 by pendexter

[Octo]

He has a mild case of Alzheimer.

 

If his Alzheimer's disease is still mild, he might remember. Memory doesn't disappear in a linear way. He may remember the pen, particularly if he had it for a long time. Maybe start by asking what kinds of things he wrote with the FP and then when the memories click in ask about the brand, where he got it, etc. If no luck, try on a different day.

[Fallennib]

Disregard the following. I thought you were describing a transparent ink window, but I just realized that you were talking about a transparent bottle of ink...

 

 

 

Overall it sounds like you are describing a piston filler. But where exactly is this transparent container that holds the ink? Out of the pics that have been posted, I haven't seen any transparent components.

 

Is it an ink window like the image below? i.e. an ink window with the red/brown brick pattern...

 

ink window.png

If his Alzheimer's disease is still mild, he might remember. Memory doesn't disappear in a linear way. He may remember the pen, particularly if he had it for a long time. Maybe start by asking what kinds of things he wrote with the FP and then when the memories click in ask about the brand, where he got it, etc. If no luck, try on a different day.

Appologies for the late reply, I had a toefl exam, annoying little bugger isn't it? Anyway, sorry for my poor choice of words, pendexter your initial impression was indeed correct, the pen matches the description, but lacks the bricked pattern, but does the end of the barrel on that pen turn?

Octo I have tried many times, and even tried a few hours ago, to no avail, I doubt my gramdfather would provide any useful information.

[maksim]

So basically some type of,celluloid pen, likely.

 

Do you recall the pen clip? Arrow? Straight?

 

I am thinking some sort of a vac,

[maksim]

Take a look here.

 

http://parkerpens.net/duovac.html

[Fallennib]

The brick etching is way too long, to be the pen I had. I remember the tip of the barrel was a diffrent, sort of dark brown color that could be turned, that seems to be the most striking characteristic of the pen... I am not sure if I recall anything else, I will post if I do. Thank you, for the help

[jar]

Appologies for the late reply, I had a toefl exam, annoying little bugger isn't it? Anyway, sorry for my poor choice of words, pendexter your initial impression was indeed correct, the pen matches the description, but lacks the bricked pattern, but does the end of the barrel on that pen turn?

Octo I have tried many times, and even tried a few hours ago, to no avail, I doubt my gramdfather would provide any useful information.

 

The idea that the end turned limits the possibilities somewhat.

 

Parker did not have a pen that filled by turning, Sheaffer had a very few but none I remember that had a body that could be described as "bricks", Pelikan does though have pens that might meat the "brick" pattern as well as fill by turning the end. Take a look at the pen on the far right in the following pictures.

 

http://www.fototime.com/03A653AD3848455/large.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/3A86D9CE00CC1FD/large.jpg

[Fallennib]

The idea that the end turned limits the possibilities somewhat.

 

Parker did not have a pen that filled by turning, Sheaffer had a very few but none I remember that had a body that could be described as "bricks", Pelikan does though have pens that might meat the "brick" pattern as well as fill by turning the end. Take a look at the pen on the far right in the following pictures.

 

 

 

 

http://www.fototime.com/03A653AD3848455/large.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/3A86D9CE00CC1FD/large.jpg

Yes, this is how the pen looked like, but of coarse different in color.

According to one website, the refilling system is referred to as a "twist filler." Please correct me if I am wrong.

Edited December 20, 2014 by Fallennib

[jar]

Yes, this is how the pen looked like, but of coarse different in color.

According to one website, the refilling system is referred to as a "twist filler." Please correct me if I am wrong.

 

Okay, a twist filler is a different system, you turn the end which twists an internal ink sack. Swan is one brand that used twist fillers.

 

In this picture the second pen from the left is a twist filler Swan:

http://www.fototime.com/8F86D6F999B6946/large.jpg

A.A. Waterman also made twist fillers but they would have been a solid color, most likely just black hard rubber.

Here is a link to a possible Swan Leverless design.

 

But I still lean towards an older Pelikan.

[Fallennib]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=vO6VVIngCoL6UMe6gLgL&url=http://www.gopens.com/PDF/Catalog51.pdf&ved=0CBwQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNHz7qGRpvwYdaUuUDtg8j6SWR65Kg

I have been looking through this catalogue, and narrowed down the choices, it could either be number 37; 43; 62; 64; 65; or 58.

Thank you friends, for all your help, I really appreciate it, but after looking at the prices (1000$ and up), I feel discouraged, and self loathing, for throwing away the pen. Now, could someone point me to the time travellers' forum!?

[jar]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=vO6VVIngCoL6UMe6gLgL&url=http://www.gopens.com/PDF/Catalog51.pdf&ved=0CBwQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNHz7qGRpvwYdaUuUDtg8j6SWR65Kg

I have been looking through this catalogue, and narrowed down the choices, it could either be number 37; 43; 62; 64; 65; or 58.

Thank you friends, for all your help, I really appreciate it, but after looking at the prices (1000$ and up), I feel discouraged, and self loathing, for throwing away the pen. Now, could someone point me to the time travellers' forum!?

 

Okay, older Pelikans. Makes sense. Start looking here and here.

[NinthSphere]

Ooh, pricey mistake. ~$300 beats ~$1000ish though.

[sombrueil]

If you threw away an early model Pelikan Tortoise, you will probably hear our groans from your front porch, wherever you may live.

[deepak23]

Seeing that the OPs from India and his grandfather is 100, I can relate to what my grandparents used and try and add my two bits:

 

- The popular pens in India in the 30s and 40s were Mabie Todd Swan and Fellowship, but these were of different designs

- There were a few Parkers and Sheaffers too but used by the administrators (babus)

- The filling system indicates a vacuumatic or a snorkel

- The brick pattern seems to indicate Parkers

 

So my guess is that it most likely is a Parker Duovac

 

For more pics - http://parkerpens.net/duovac.html

[Fallennib]

Seeing that the OPs from India and his grandfather is 100, I can relate to what my grandparents used and try and add my two bits:

 

- The popular pens in India in the 30s and 40s were Mabie Todd Swan and Fellowship, but these were of different designs

- There were a few Parkers and Sheaffers too but used by the administrators (babus)

- The filling system indicates a vacuumatic or a snorkel

- The brick pattern seems to indicate Parkers

 

So my guess is that it most likely is a Parker Duovac

 

For more pics - http://parkerpens.net/duovac.html

You must have been misinformed, I am not from India . Well, I'm from all over (ignore that, trying to add humour), during the war (WWII) my Grandfather spent time in London, before moving to lebanon. Edited December 21, 2014 by Fallennib

[deepak23]

My bad ... Whatever made me assume that??

[Fallennib]

My bad ... Whatever made me assume that??

Hehe. No problem man, we all assume at times, it was a good assumption anyway. Perhaps it had to do with me taking the TOEFL?