Is This Piece Fake, 144, Got From Ebay

[buaahugo]

This is a F nib 144. the ink flow is not like other montblanc F nib i used to write. Ink is discontinued sometimes. Need to push and care when writing.

Is it a fake one?

[jar]

I don't see anything that jumps out at me.

[Z-Tab]

Despite their claims of individual attention given to every pen off their production line, some Montblancs need a bit of adjustment to get them working correctly.

 

Your pen looks real. Your flow issues might be fixed by a good cleaning or a minor nib adjustment.

[PAKMAN]

Looks like the real deal to me also.

[HermetiC]

Looks real; nib may be misaligned owing to bad use.

[AndrewC]

First off-if the pen is a new pen, did you clean it before filling?(I assume it is new due to the sticker still being on the pen) There is often oil residue from manufacturing in both the pen and converter. Try emptying it, rinsing out, and then add a 1 drop of dish soap such as Dawn (avoid stuff w/lemon added) to 1 1/2 ounces lukewarm water and fill and empty the pen several times. Then repeat with just water to get out the soap. Allow the pen to dry, then refill and see how you do. Also, check that the converter is seated all the way down. If the pen is not new, try this anyway. Also, have you tried other ink? Some pen/ink combos just don't work. Even if it is MB ink in a MB pen. As to whether or not the pen is real? No idea. Nothing glaring.

[buaahugo]

thanks you all.

I will keep it and maybe get it tuned on the MB boutique

[skippymyman]

What a beautiful pickup! Looks genuine to me too. Write in the best of health

[Pravda]

I agree with Z-Tab.. I had about 15 brand new MBs that I had to tweak before they wrote like I wanted. Maybe it was sold because it was a finicky writer, ie your chance to perfect it and make it a WIN

 

That being said, shouldn't the ring in the bottom by the nib be black? I dunno if some were gold and I missed that part of history. Just an observation.

Edited October 23, 2014 by Pravda

[Chu0009]

it looks exactly like my 1990s 144. the gold band at the tip of grip is right. I brought mine from MB boutique. I also can not see any thing thats standing out. my 144 see below. it has a two tone nib, but the lighting makes it look monotone.

[jar]

I agree with Z-Tab.. I had about 15 brand new MBs that I had to tweak before they wrote like I wanted. Maybe it was sold because it was a finicky writer, ie your chance to perfect it and make it a WIN

 

That being said, shouldn't the ring in the bottom by the nib be black? I dunno if some were gold and I missed that part of history. Just an observation.

 

They all had gold rings there and usually corroded.

[sd10521]

I agree with a good cleaning, and be sure the converter still has the spring inside where the ink is held, it's supposed to break surface tension to give it a better flow.

[buaahugo]

break surface tension, treak

What exactly do these two actions mean?

[sd10521]

break surface tension, treak

What exactly do these two actions mean?

I was cleaning out a 144 and it's converter. The converter easily came apart and I found a small spring on the towel. I had no clue where it came from, so off to Google which sent me to three topics in here.

 

The spring moves up and down in the ink to help with the flow, to kind of keep it moving when you turn the pen over to it's writing position, otherwise the ink might bind up and cause skipping. Some manufacturers will use a ball bearing, I can imagine this could eventually block the ink flow from the converter.

[Mister Mont Blanc]

I was cleaning out a 144 and it's converter. The converter easily came apart and I found a small spring on the towel. I had no clue where it came from, so off to Google which sent me to three topics in here.

 

The spring moves up and down in the ink to help with the flow, to kind of keep it moving when you turn the pen over to it's writing position, otherwise the ink might bind up and cause skipping. Some manufacturers will use a ball bearing, I can imagine this could eventually block the ink flow from the converter.

Yes I remember this in my converter. Maybe it's similar to the ball inside spray paint cans. There is also a tiny ball inside of cartridges for the same reason.

[Mister Mont Blanc]

That being said, shouldn't the ring in the bottom by the nib be black? I dunno if some were gold and I missed that part of history. Just an observation.

I know this is true for the Legrand and 149 but only the more recent modern Classiques don't have gold there anymore (probably a move to increase profit margins).

[jar]

I know this is true for the Legrand and 149 but only the more recent modern Classiques don't have gold there anymore (probably a move to increase profit margins).

 

And the new Classique is not the 144 IIRC but the 145. It is a whole different pen with a threaded cap instead of snap cap and slightly larger in size.

Edited October 24, 2014 by jar

[AndrewC]

The ball in paint is to help mix it up. Surface tension refers to a liquid's desire to stay together. Ever fill a glass with liquid and the level seems to rise above the lip of the glass, almost forming a dome? Or watch water form beads on a window, and then suddenly stream over the edge or down the window? That results from "surface tension". Ink will do the same in a converter sometimes. You can turn a pen upside down and all the ink stays at the top of the converter away from the feed, The spring, or sometimes a little ball, will break the tension and ensure flow. Oils in a converter can aid surface tension, hence the suggestion for a good wash with soap.

 

"Tweak" refers to giving something a little adjustment. To tweak someones nose means to sort of grab it with thumb and forefinger and give it a gentle wiggle to one side or both directions. You "tweak someones nose". Sometimes it is affection, sometimes a gentle correction. Some nibs need to be tweaked a little, moved to center, seated all the way into the section, smoothed a little.Tweaked.

Edited October 24, 2014 by AndrewC

[Ursus]

Pravda, on 23 Oct 2014 - 23:21, said:

I agree with Z-Tab.. I had about 15 brand new MBs that I had to tweak before they wrote like I wanted. Maybe it was sold because it was a finicky writer, ie your chance to perfect it and make it a WIN

 

That being said, shouldn't the ring in the bottom by the nib be black? I dunno if some were gold and I missed that part of history. Just an observation.

 

They all had gold rings there and usually corroded.

 

 

Don't get me started on those gold rings (I'm a little emotional when it comes to those)... bad, bad, bad idea. The question is if our friend can do anyting to prevent it from being corroded into a thousand pieces the first time he dips it and wipes it off with a soft cloth?...

I almost want to say (although I agree that it looks authentic) that it must be a fake since that ring is still intact.

[Mister Mont Blanc]

 

And the new Classique is not the 144 IIRC but the 145. It is a whole different pen with a threaded cap instead of snap cap and slightly larger in size.

Correct, thanks for adding this distinction.