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I got this nib the other day for free from a friend. She found it at an antique shop in a small container, and the clerk told her to just take it. She let me have it as I'm "the fountain pen guy". However, I don't own or know what pen it belongs too. A couple people tell me it could be an imperial ii or iii nib. Any thoughts?

 

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Nib on the right, solid yellow. Next to my vac fill triumph nib.

 

Thank you.

Regards, Valorfore.

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No picture showing up. I have an Imperial II and it has a screw on Triumph nib.

 

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No picture showing up. I have an Imperial II and it has a screw on Triumph nib.

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Sorry! I posted a link. So how bout now?

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Does it look like THIS one?

Not quite... The breather hole is just a circle and yellow gold. Also, it's sheaffer logo is flat not curved and under 14k it says made in USA

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Short Triumph, but that doesn't pin down what it's off of apart from "relatively good (14K!) made after 1959 and before about 1980".

In your opinion, what pen would you think it goes to?

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No picture showing up. I have an Imperial II and it has a screw on Triumph nib.

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Could you post a picture up close? Section and nib.

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It could go on a number of things-- Lady Sheaffers contemporary with the PFM or later, higher-end Skripserts... I'm trying to remember if the later Stylists had masking on the point... and I'll bet others with fewer immediate distractions can suggest others.

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It could go on a number of things-- Lady Sheaffers contemporary with the PFM or later, higher-end Skripserts... I'm trying to remember if the later Stylists had masking on the point... and I'll bet others with fewer immediate distractions can suggest others.

Boy... What a mess in getting into. Several people think it's to an imperial but I've seen no imperials with 14k nibs. I just love that it's a broad! I really wanna figure out the model... The measurements are 9/32 at base and 20/32 from tip to base. Threaded obviously... That's all I got.

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I wouldn't expect a definitive answer; I expect people to add to my list rather than eliminate from it. It's a style of point that Sheaffer applied to a lot of different models, and I don't think it came in a wide variety of sizes, because one size made it easier to keep a stock of mounting hardware. So far as I know, there's more variation in material-- you see palladium-silver (Imperial II, some Lady Sheaffers, some Skripserts), the same with a gold mask (Imperial III), 9K (the earliest sort of Imperial, chewed thoroughly in this thread) and 14K (what I mentioned above, plus other things I'm not remembering) which may or may not have the 14K indicator depending one what it was stuck to and when it was made-- the 9k ones don't. I would not be surprised to find that there was an 18K version too, because Sheaffer of the past likes to mess with us.

 

Now... if you're of a mind to mount it on an Imperial II or III, it will probably fit. Those who hate Frankenpens will likely have fits if they see it, but that's a different topic.

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I wouldn't expect a definitive answer; I expect people to add to my list rather than eliminate from it. It's a style of point that Sheaffer applied to a lot of different models, and I don't think it came in a wide variety of sizes, because one size made it easier to keep a stock of mounting hardware. So far as I know, there's more variation in material-- you see palladium-silver (Imperial II, some Lady Sheaffers, some Skripserts), the same with a gold mask (Imperial III), 9K (the earliest sort of Imperial, chewed thoroughly in this thread) and 14K (what I mentioned above, plus other things I'm not remembering) which may or may not have the 14K indicator depending one what it was stuck to and when it was made-- the 9k ones don't. I would not be surprised to find that there was an 18K version too, because Sheaffer of the past likes to mess with us.

 

Now... if you're of a mind to mount it on an Imperial II or III, it will probably fit. Those who hate Frankenpens will likely have fits if they see it, but that's a different topic.

Perhaps the most helpful post I've ever received... I set the nib aside for a while and Bow I'm back at it. I like non cartridge pens, so the imperial II deluxe is probably the direction I'm going. I hope you're right about the interchanability of these nibs. If not I'll let you know sometime.

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I've seen this nib on a mid 60's (?) gold plated slim Imperial type pen, most have been Brazilian but US models exist and on that basis probably TDs. There's a weird Imperial line based on the early '50's TM TD which had a plastic cap model (there's a topic about it somewhere here), a gold plated slip cap ( Golden Imperial), a SS slip cap (I've seen several but I'm undecided if they where cap swaps) and a fully gold plated pen that appears to be part of the "family" in terms of size but I'm thinking it had a square filler cap. It may well have also appeared on some of the various 3 number models (777 etc) from the early 70's. An Imperial II Deluxe would make a nice home anyway.

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