Searching For A Gold Sheening Green Sailor Ink

[Fox Point]

Third time writing this out, DESPITE apparently copying it each time. Argh, mobiles!

 

Anyway. I recently bought a sample of tokiwa matsu and love the shading and behavior, and am getting a ton of sheen, but prefer the green colour it has before it dries and the red doesn't quite do it for me. Is there another sailor ink which is a bright middle-with-a-touch-of-darkness through to light green, with a golden sheen? Something like light through spring leaves, a very good ink to keep away the winter blues. For critters which might or partially fit the bill, would anyone be able to post comparison shots to tokiwa matsu (cough*saskia_madding and algester*cough)? Picture density makes for great threads! As such, here is my sheeny, sheeny t. m. from a fude nib. On tomoe river it has a tiny bit of sheen even with the fine reverse side.

 

Thanks!

Fox Point

 

[lgsoltek]

On reading the title I was going to say Tokiwa-Matsu Now I have to leave the question for someone else (with a larger Sailor ink collection) to answer.

[Kevan]

Does it have to be Sailor? Epinard (now discontinued but there are still some bottles floating around) was the ink that preceded Tokiwa Matsu, and it doesn't have much sheen but it's a darker army-green in broader nibs.

 

Tomoe River paper seems to increase the level of sheen in inks. I've seen it with Kon Peki and Shin-Kai, when they exhibit none on other papers.

[Algester]

aiya... I can't get my hands on the other sailor inks sadly even if I like them the logistics expense is an added nightmare for me, I can post writing sample of Tokiwa-Matsu because I have that readily available... but say mix in rouge hematite and tokiwa matsu... hmmm

ahh I know what your looking for Onnago-Iro days Komorebi

Edited October 19, 2014 by Algester

[alarickc]

From what I've seen, not in that range of yellow-greens. However, the made by Sailor Bung Box Dandyism is a very dark green with a little bit of silver sheen.

[Fox Point]

Is there a non-sailor green-sheening gold ink out there? Thank you all, though I still hold hope! Surely someone at sailor must have looked at shigure and tokiwa matsu and been struck by the possibilities.. A red sheening purple would be awesome as well.

 

... Onnago-Iro days Komorebi?

 

Fox Point.

[Algester]

Sailor Onnago-Iro days ink

Komorebi (Sunlight filtering through folliage canopy) saying the translated name is a mouthful so I stick with the local untranslated name

http://i.imgur.com/qhkWYOR.jpg

PS: this is not my sample

Edited October 19, 2014 by Algester

[saskia_madding]

Sadly, BB Dandyism doesn't really have sheen, and neither do Kobe #28 or #34, which were the other two options. Maybe it's worth it to ask dcroe05 in this thread if #49 has any sheen - https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/273904-kobe-49-kitano-olive-green/.

 

I didn't see much sheen on the Onago-iro Sunlight Filtering Through Leaves, but it's a great colour. Here are some shots ...

 

 

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af97/Saskia_Madding/Pens/DSC09879_zpsdf911951.jpg

 

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af97/Saskia_Madding/Pens/DSC09881_zps91cb9500.jpg

 

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af97/Saskia_Madding/Pens/DSC09882_zpsef2b78b4.jpg

 

 

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af97/Saskia_Madding/Pens/DSC09911_zps0e9a9527.jpg

[Fox Point]

Onago-iro is definitely nice, but might be nicer with some extra sunlight Will check out that thread. Thank you both!

[Cyber6]

Sailor Kobe #19 Minotawa Lime (going by memory on the name).. has a beautiful sliver sheen... Saskia has some amazing pics...

 

 

C.

[SeeksAdvice]

Onago-Iro --- blech. Spring green, okayish. "True green," okayish. Dark green, great. Whatever that stuff is supposed to be, yuck. To me, it comes across as something I'd call closer to baby **** green.

[Algester]

The good news a bit of mixing was a success but you need to dilute the rouge hematite with a lot of tokiwa matsu and right now what I got is a green ink that turns to gold when it dries no solid particulates yes

i also a dded a bit of inaho but really a lot of tokiwa matsu infact so much that to get the color just right needs a total volume of 5cc worth if ink

What i got was

.2ml rouge hematite

.2ml Iroshizuku inaho

4ml of tokiwa matsu

Rouge hematitie is actually quite hard to mix because little of it can change the color too much

Edited October 26, 2014 by Algester

[Cyber6]

The good news a bit of mixing was a success but you need to dilute the rouge hematite with a lot of tokiwa matsu and right now what I got is a green ink that turns to gold when it dries

 

 

PICS.. PICS !!!!!!

[Fox Point]

Exciting! I wonder how that changes the character of the green - is it more brown?

[Algester]

Exciting! I wonder how that changes the character of the green - is it more brown?

Close it's a very dark green already bordering black then goes to goldlike red as expected of the sheen of tokiwa-matsu so I'm not sure if I'm purely seeing sheed or thats the real ink I'm seeing still testing the recipes I have before I do a picture scan

http://i.imgur.com/S15sf05.jpg

Ink base=.4ml tokiwa matsu+.2ml of souten (not entirely related)

V1=.2ml rouge hematite+.6ml tokiwa-matsu+.2 ml of ink base

V2=.4ml of ink base+.2ml of rouge

V3=2ml of tokiwa matsu+.2ml inaho+.3?ml of rouge hematite (the real first batch)

Edited October 26, 2014 by Algester

[Fox Point]

Very interesting! And interesting that J. Herbin and Sailor play nicely together at all.

[Algester]

Ok I just tweaked the recipe a little bit

.4ml tokiwa matsu +.3ml pilot iroshizuku ina-ho (there's another ink by sailor with the same name so not to get confused)+.025 ml of rouge hematite

To get these measurements I use a 1ml syringe

I will do a swab later but holy (bleep) its a dark green ink with gold undertones when it dries on my sketch pad that I simply can not describe what the ink's color is like one can say red wtih gold and green undertones but when wet its dark green with red and gold undertones

Edited October 30, 2014 by Algester

[Fox Point]

O . O

 

The swab, oh my. And perhaps an action shot from your sketch pad? Does it manage to be green-red without being brown?! If so, amazing! It is also amazing that Rouge Hematite is so concentrated in its sheen that that little can change the dominant sheen without completely dominatig the colour. Perhaps the red tone is just the continued sheen effect from the Tokiwa Matsu?

 

Looking forward to it!

Fox Point

[Algester]

With the new recipe its like green red then turns to brown like sepia which I think is ina-ho at work

But when I use the parallel pen when I lay it down on the paper it does bare semblance to komorebi

Edited October 30, 2014 by Algester