Ink For A Wine Tasting Journal.

[arrScott]

Living in Virginia, I frequently visit wineries. When I do tastings, I keep simple notes on each wine in a Field Notes journal, and I like to use an ink that feels "wine-y" to me. On a recent long weekend of tastings in Charlottesville, I was taking notes with Diamine Ancient Copper, which for whatever reason puts me in mind of the barrels used to age many wines. Then, at dinner, I was looking back at my notes and set my notebook down on a wet spot on the table and instantly, two days worth of tasting notes were gone. (Note: Diamine Ancient Copper is very, very non-water-resistant!)

 

So here's my conundrum. A few of my favorite everyday inks have good water resistance. (Noodler's Zhivago and Dark Matter, for example.) But none have colors that quite fit with a wine journal. I'm looking for a deep red, or a really dark purple, or a brown with some character, or even I suppose an amber with good presence. Suggestions?

[Notgatherox]

Haha, tell me about wine! The immediate inks that come to mind is De Atramentis Merlot, or De Atramentis Whisky! It's claimed that they use real Merlot and Whisky in making the inks!

 

 

But for waterproofness, Noodler's North African Violet is partically waterproof. Noodler's Brown is waterproof.

 

 

EDIT: To add in more practical options.

 

 

~Epic

Edited October 12, 2014 by Notgatherox

[Joane]

MB Burgundy Red

[sandy101]

Diamine Syrah may give you the colour you want, not sure about waterproofness though.

[LeonW]

Living in Virginia, I frequently visit wineries. When I do tastings, I keep simple notes on each wine in a Field Notes journal, and I like to use an ink that feels "wine-y" to me. On a recent long weekend of tastings in Charlottesville, I was taking notes with Diamine Ancient Copper, which for whatever reason puts me in mind of the barrels used to age many wines. Then, at dinner, I was looking back at my notes and set my notebook down on a wet spot on the table and instantly, two days worth of tasting notes were gone. (Note: Diamine Ancient Copper is very, very non-water-resistant!)

So here's my conundrum. A few of my favorite everyday inks have good water resistance. (Noodler's Zhivago and Dark Matter, for example.) But none have colors that quite fit with a wine journal. I'm looking for a deep red, or a really dark purple, or a brown with some character, or even I suppose an amber with good presence. Suggestions?

Sorry, but I could not resist, I can't see the problem - just have to taste all those wineries again.

 

Actually I would follow this thread to educate myself for future use when taking notes myself - been far to long since I did. ☺

[A144]

R&K Scabiosa. It's a nice dusty purple, and very water resistant.

[Friar Whently]

Diamine Syrah may give you the colour you want, not sure about waterproofness though.

This is about the level of water resistance you could expect from Diamine Syrah.

[Joane]

MB Burgundy Red

On second though, although Burgundy Red came to mind immediately for its colour, I don't know about its fastness. Therefore adding the suggestion of MB Permanent Black, which in addition to being a permanent ink, could look very good with wine spilled all over it.

[Sandy1]

Hi,

 

Perhaps the Noodler's Baystate Concord?

 

IIRC the Baystate series can be intermingled, so a whisper of Cranberry is an option should one choose to nudge the hue.

 

Bye,

S1

[amberleadavis]

If you are up for a dash of mixing ....

 

I'd grab the De Atramentis Document inks. If you can get your hands on magenta you could add it to almost any other ink and make it dang waterproof. Adding it to De A wine ink would be the bees knees.

 

You should also check out this thread. Visvamitra's look at 60 purple / violet inks is a masterpiece. After 5 days, in water he had this result:

 

http://imageshack.com/a/img674/7303/xzyDk0.jpg

[cjr]

Noodler's Empire Red is 100% water resistant and smear-proof after drying. Unfortunately, all of the great wine-colored inks run like crazy when wet.

[Runnin_Ute]

Levenger Pomegranate would work color wise-not certain of waterfastness.

 

Second Scabiosa - it is an ig ink so could work for you.

[arrScott]

 

You should also check out this thread. Visvamitra's look at 60 purple / violet inks is a masterpiece. After 5 days, in water he had this result:

 

 

Thanks for the link to the violets thread, and for the mixing suggestion. The swatches after so long in water offer another hint that Akkerman Voorhout Violet is very nearly the same formulation as Diamine Damson. (Which is my hypothesis after testing both at the DC Supershow.) Tyrian Purple is also a nice wine-ish color, and I'm surprised to see it hold up to water so well. Also, the performance of BSAR is impressive, and checking reviews hereabout it looks like the more claret-shaded English Roses holds up to water well. Edited October 14, 2014 by arrScott

[arrScott]

 

Here's a sample of the water damage to the pages of my notebook. That's Diamine Ancient Copper on Field Notes Traveling Salesman edition paper. Not even ghosts of the letters left behind in most of the watery bits. The back of each page that got wet ran almost as badly.

 

Not a knock against Diamine Ancient Copper - it remains a favorite ink. I'm just not going to use it for potentially wet applications like taking notes at wineries or during home brew sessions.

[amberleadavis]

KTC is the most resilient ink I have ever tried.

[sandy101]

Another option is to use pencil - I don't mean this to be snide, but pencil is very waterproof and since there are a range of colours these days, including neon colours, perhaps a mechanical pencil (easier to carry) or a set of coloured pencils would for field notes. I remeber using pencils in the lab, and it would survive no matter what the spills.

[wetnoodlepens]

Snap. And here I was coming in to recommend Diamine Ancient Copper, just based on the post title, until I read the content...

[Sholom]

Noodler's Nightshade probably isn't waterproof enough for your purposes but in my pens it definitely looks like wine.

[da vinci]

Looks like Diamine Grape would not be viable either, based on the water tests above.

[Abner C. Kemp]

I would recommend Rohrer and Klinger Sciabosa it is a dark purple that has a sort of mysterious look to it. It is also an Iron Gall ink so you won't have any problems with the ink smearing -- I actually left a writing sample of Sciabosa submersed in water for 4 days and it looked pretty much the same as the day I wrote it.