Onoto With Oxonian Italic Nib

[arran]

Hi

 

Just received my onoto churchill pinstripe pen with customized nib : 0.9 mm cursive italic by oxonian

As I had very good results in the past with similar grindings and pens , this pen seems to be real ink gusher and lays a fat luiquid line with drying times above 30 sec.

I tried various inks and dry ones too , but to no avail.

Looking at the nib , nothing special to remark as far I can see

What could be the reason?

Anyone with similar results?

[Koyote]

I have no idea what is wrong with your pen. Why not just return it with a request that it write drier?

 

Though for what they charge, they should probably send someone to your house to pick it up.

[Kuscer]

Hi arran,

It might help if you told us what ink you were using.

Best regards,

Dingan

Edited October 7, 2014 by FP189

[arran]

Hi arran,

It might help if you told us what ink you were using.

Best regards,

Dingan

Ink was iroshizuku take sumi , diamine eclpse , diamine jet black and drier pelikan 4001

I flushed the pen first with platinum cleaning agent.

[FedericoMedina]

when flushed and no ink is in the pen is there a visible gap between the tines?

 

Usually this gap or lack there of helps control the amount of ink laid on the paper.

 

BIgger gap more ink (there are limits)

 

Smaller gap less ink is laid and the dryer the pen.

 

also if there is any residue from the cleaning agent still in the pen even a little bit it will cause it to write very very wet.

[arran]

Just popped in my pen to get it repaired

[Beechwood]

I would probably have tried different converters or cartridges in the pen first, I would doubt any QC control issues from either Onoto or Oxonian.

[arran]

I tried cartridges as well but same result

Onoto remains however my favourite European brand

They are amongst my best writers

[View from the Loft]

Oxonian has ground both nibs on my Onotos to my spec., and both are cursiv italics. Both are drier than my stock IB modern CS, but I would describe my Onotos as 8 out if 10 on the flow scale using Diamine Midnight and Diamine Onyx, which are both generous flow inks. I found they were a tad less wet with Iro Kiri-Same.

 

If the pen is too wet for your taste, please contact Onoto if the nib grind was in your purchase from them, or Oxonian if an after sales customisation. Given my dealings with both, I would be surprised if they would not work with you to ensure that you can enjoy your one pen.

[arran]

The pen will be sent to onoto via retailer

The pen was bought with a customised nib

Gorgeous pen by the way

I love all my onotos

[View from the Loft]

I'm sure the wait will be worth it. I understand that it's disappointing when this one isn't exactly right out of the box and previous ones have been, but I'm sure it will be sorted.

 

Oxonian has ground several nibs for me with only one requiring more than one trip to him - but it came as quite a surprise to me that this one wasn't spot on given every other had been first time. But this is life, nibs are so subjective - and it hasn't out me off sending more work his way.

[georges zaslavsky]

Oxonian is one of the european nibmeisters if not the best in Europe. A lot of FPNers are happy with his work, maybe you should have tried herbin flushing solution to flush completely the ink residues in your pen.

Edited October 12, 2014 by georges zaslavsky

[View from the Loft]

Oxonian is one of the european nibmeisters if not the best in Europe. A lot of FPNers are happy with his work, maybe you should have tried herbin flushing solution to flush completely the ink residues in your pen.

Maybe I'm not understanding something here, but how would using a flushing solution help to reduce the flow, given that the pen is described as a "gusher"? Genuinely curious.

[georges zaslavsky]

Maybe I'm not understanding something here, but how would using a flushing solution help to reduce the flow, given that the pen is described as a "gusher"? Genuinely curious.

I might have misread the op original complaint but I think that before using a pen, you know well that a flushing is necessary and that flushing the pen with a specific cleaning product, it eliminates all residues of the previous inks used or oil residues left from the pen manufacturing.One of my pens disliked one ink brand, I flushed it with Herbin's cleaning solution and used one of the driest inks available, it solved all the issues I had before. Using a fast drying ink might also help. If not inkflow can be adjusted by a nibmeister or by the pen manufacturer that might be the unique solution to the problem .

Edited October 12, 2014 by georges zaslavsky

[arran]

To make things clear:

I have several itailics made by oxonian and all are very good writers and highly satisfied wit his work

Only with this last pen , it seemd to be a inpractical ink gusher.

I understand that some people prefer wet , others dry writers , that is quite subjective

But this issue goes beyond this idea , in that way that the ink laid on paper is so thick and fat , that it takes a ridiculous time to dry

I first cleaned my pen with platinum cleaning solution and flushed lots of times and used several inks afterwards with good cleaning in between.

I am just wondering how the pen is tested at onoto.

Is the B nib just send from onoto to John and grinds the nib and sends it back to onoto ?is the nib being tested at John or at Onoto, or not at all?

Just this comment , for improving their already splendid QC.

With all my onotos never had issues, besides the finetuning in function of personal preferences.

[View from the Loft]

I am just wondering how the pen is tested at onoto.

Is the B nib just send from onoto to John and grinds the nib and sends it back to onoto ?is the nib being tested at John or at Onoto, or not at all?

Just this comment , for improving their already splendid QC.

With all my onotos never had issues, besides the finetuning in function of personal preferences.

This is just my experience. For one of mine, I purchased it from Onoto at the London pen show, and Onoto did a deal that included John grinding the nib for me. I took the box and papers home, the pen was handed to John, and he sent it directly to me. So in this case, clearly John did the final test.

 

For the other, I purchased from Onoto by mail order, again including the grind by John. Pen was dispatched from Onoto, but I have no idea whether John ever saw this pen or merely ground a nib which was sent to Onoto for installation in the pen.

 

I suspect the answer to your question is that the question of who does the final test all depends on circumstances.

[View from the Loft]

I might have misread the op original complaint but I think that before using a pen, you know well that a flushing is necessary and that flushing the pen with a specific cleaning product, it eliminates all residues of the previous inks used or oil residues left from the pen manufacturing.One of my pens disliked one ink brand, I flushed it with Herbin's cleaning solution and used one of the driest inks available, it solved all the issues I had before. Using a fast drying ink might also help. If not inkflow can be adjusted by a nibmeister or by the pen manufacturer that might be the unique solution to the problem .

Yes, I agree - it's standard practice for me to flush a pen that I have just acquired. And part of the fun is finding what pen and ink combinations work well together.

[georges zaslavsky]

Yes, I agree - it's standard practice for me to flush a pen that I have just acquired. And part of the fun is finding what pen and ink combinations work well together.

Indeed. I for instance will never use noodlers or waterman havana and water purple in an expensive pen. They create too much hassle and trouble for a lot of pens. If I can't flush the pen myself I ask for a proper ultra sonic cleaning at my favorite penshop owner.

Edited October 12, 2014 by georges zaslavsky