Is This A Pilot Custom 742 Or Custom 823 Or . . . ?

[mrwh1609]

I recently bought a Pilot on eBay, and it arrived today:

 

*translucent smoke barrel and cap;

 

*vacuum filler;

 

*#15 nib, 14K, medium

 

*and a cap band reading "CUSTOM 742."

 

Huh?

 

 

Except for that last detail, I'd be sure that I had bought a Custom 823. The cap on this pen is also threaded a little differently than my amber Custom 823.

 

Was there an early version of the C823 sold as a C742? Is this a Dewey-defeats-Truman fluke?

 

My apologies if this question is answered elsewhere on the forum.

 

Here's the listing for the auction:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pilot-Custom-742-Fountain-Pen-/131301700135?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=IuUtbQzfYgf8lfmU0ni6lbhrGlw%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

[Uncial]

I might be wrong, but I think the 742 is slightly smaller and with a slightly flexible nib. Maybe you got an 823 with a 742 cap......if the cap fits.

[Oranges and Apples]

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Edited October 1, 2014 by Oranges and Apples

[mrwh1609]

That is a Pilot Custom 823 Black Demonstrator for sure. I am currently looking at mine.

 

That's what I thought too. Same size as my amber C823. And I don't know of any translucent C742 with a #15 nib. Only the cap band threw me. Weird!

 

Thanks for the help.

[Oranges and Apples]

 

That's what I thought too. Same size as my amber C823. And I don't know of any translucent C742 with a #15 nib. Only the cap band threw me. Weird!

 

Thanks for the help.

I took away my words.

 

http://kmpn.blogspot.com/2008/11/pilot-custom.html

http://kmpn.blogspot.com/2011/06/pilot-custom.html

 

Those links should help a little.

 

The diameters of the pens are the same so the cap should be a good fit.

Edited October 1, 2014 by Oranges and Apples

[mrwh1609]

Thank you. It must be a C823 with a C742 cap. What confused me (and still confuses me) is the translucent cap. I thought all Custom 742 pens were solid black.

 

Thanks for the info!

[ehemem]

Thank you. It must be a C823 with a C742 cap. What confused me (and still confuses me) is the translucent cap. I thought all Custom 742 pens were solid black.

 

Thanks for the info!

 

The 742 does not have a translucent cap. I think it is just a case of the wrong cap band being put on the cap...

 

An instant collector's piece!

[mrwh1609]

 

The 742 does not have a translucent cap. I think it is just a case of the wrong cap band being put on the cap...

 

An instant collector's piece!

 

Worth millions! Or at least worth inking.

 

Here's a friend's Custom 823 smoke next to this "742" cap. The cap band is the only difference.

 

Thanks to all for playing along!

[maverink]

congrats you got yourself a rare 823 with a 742 band, since pilot has a keen eye for quality this might have been rejected. sure collectible as its a rare one.

[jeffkoch]

Yes, the 743 cap will fit a 742. I agree with the other posters - instant collectors piece.

[Algester]

if it's pre-owned guess that what it means since the cap fits ideally I guess somewhere down the pen's life the original owner lost the cap and got a usable replacement instead this or that either way and 742/912 pens should NOT BE A FREAKING PISTON FILLER IT BLODDY COMES WITH A CON-70 CONVERTER SIlLY EBAY LISTING that or pics... but the 742 cap should be indeed a solid black not smoke...

[lawrenceg]

Whilst it is a bit of a Franken pen it is probably worth $90 for the nib alone and the fun that you are/ will have with it.

Trying speaking to Pilot pens, give them a good story and they may sell/ give you the correct cap.

 

If you really really don't want it I would be interested.

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