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Given the demise of Conway Stewart, should the name of this forum not be changed to 'British pens' or something similar? It seems anachronistic to carry on with the name of a defunct brand. Unlike the case of Esterbrook or Wahl there probably isn't great interest in vintage pens of Conway Stewart.

 

Any opinions?

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I'm sure that there are many readers of this forum who have an immense interest in vintage CS pens. May be useful to see my post of today in "Conway Stewart in Adminsitration". For what it is worth, it explains my philosophy. CS was a great brand. Likewise there were many other great brands no longer produced today. But, they still have forums on FPN!

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I'm sure that there are many readers of this forum who have an immense interest in vintage CS pens. May be useful to see my post of today in "Conway Stewart in Adminsitration". For what it is worth, it explains my philosophy. CS was a great brand. Likewise there were many other great brands no longer produced today. But, they still have forums on FPN!

 

Maybe so, but I am simply saying that it might make more sense to combine Conway Stewart with other UK based brands such as Yard-o-Led and Onoto, as these would otherwise lose themselves in the miscellaneous forum. Is there any particular reason why Conway Stewart has a right to the forum while these others don't? This is especially relevant given the termination of the brand.

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FPN has an Esterbrook forum and, a Wahl Eversharp forum. Are they still making pens today?

 

Conway Stewart sold many more pens over its first seventy years than did both Yard-o-Led and Onoto combined. Yes, it deserves its place in history despite recent events.

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Um, unless I'm very much mistaken, I believe that new Wahl Eversharp pens are still being made and sold, if not by the exact same group that made a notable impact in the 50s with the Skyline® series of pens.

 

As for the matter of the subforum's name (I'm no CS owner, just thought to contribute to the discussion), I personally see no reason to discontinue or rename the Conway-Stewart subforum, As in the case of Esterbrook, I'm fairly certain that there are a large number of people who still have a lot of interest in the brand. And just because they're no longer manufacturing pens doesn't mean that there aren't still some NOS models on the market or that people won't be willing to look into purchasing pre-loved models some time down the line.

 

 

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Kevin

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FPN has an Esterbrook forum and, a Wahl Eversharp forum. Are they still making pens today?

 

Conway Stewart sold many more pens over its first seventy years than did both Yard-o-Led and Onoto combined. Yes, it deserves its place in history despite recent events.

I agree and there is always the hope that CS could rise from the ashes, again.

As an aside I see several posts about Onoto on the CS forum so it would seem some do not feel that Onoto is served on the miscellaneous forum, interesting!

Peter

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I agree it should become a British pens forum. It doesn't downplay CS but recognizes the many other excellent British makes such as Mabie Todd.

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Actually, before CS got into the recent problems the admin and mods team have been discussing the structure of FPN, where there were thoughts to move towards a more regional structure.

 

A British Pens sub forum could be part of that.

 

Let's wait what the future will bring. :)

 

 

D.ick

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Actually, before CS got into the recent problems the admin and mods team have been discussing the structure of FPN, where there were thoughts to move towards a more regional structure.

 

A British Pens sub forum could be part of that.

 

Let's wait what the future will bring. :)

 

 

D.ick

Hello D.ick

 

Did CS cease to exist. Is it Bankrupt. What happened. :(

 

Hope they come back one day.... Otherwise I will have tosafe for an ONOTO.... also nice :)

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Maybe so, but I am simply saying that it might make more sense to combine Conway Stewart with other UK based brands such as Yard-o-Led and Onoto, as these would otherwise lose themselves in the miscellaneous forum. Is there any particular reason why Conway Stewart has a right to the forum while these others don't? This is especially relevant given the termination of the brand.

What other still existiting Brititsh FP makers are still alive today.

 

I know Onot and Yard-O-Led

Das leben ist wie ein Perpetuum Mobile mit ein Mangel..... Immer im Bewegung jedoch nicht unendlich. (life is like a troubled Perpetuum Mobile ever moving but not for ever)

Tricked throughout the centuries...

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In the 20th century people got tricked by communism

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the admin and mods team have been discussing the structure of FPN, where there were thoughts to move towards a more regional structure.

 

A British Pens sub forum could be part of that.

 

Let's wait what the future will bring. :)

 

We could also rename it to "Lamy" :P

Greetings,

Michael

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We could also rename it to "Lamy" :P

:D

 

Or biro maybe :D

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Tricked throughout the centuries...

For centuries people had been tricked by kings & "religion-alism"

In the 20th century people got tricked by communism

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It seems anachronistic to carry on with the name of a defunct brand. Unlike the case of Esterbrook or Wahl there probably isn't great interest in vintage pens of Conway Stewart.

 

Any opinions?

WOW that's a very sweeping statement and also very inaccurate in my opinion. Conway Stewart vintage pens hold a lot of interest for pen enthusiasts, just try buying one and you will see the incredible range of design and colours. The prices are getting higher all the time which would indicate a healthy market.

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WOW that's a very sweeping statement and also very inaccurate in my opinion. Conway Stewart vintage pens hold a lot of interest for pen enthusiasts, just try buying one and you will see the incredible range of design and colours. The prices are getting higher all the time which would indicate a healthy market.

I agree with that, however I think a lot depends on which side of the pond you hail from. CS had less impact in the US so it is unsuprising that some would like to see it down played. Likewise those of us in the UK (and to a lesser extent in Europe) see CS as a part of our pen history. Apart from some small "bespoke" firms pen manucture is confined to Germany, France (soon to be Poland) and the far east. It will be interesting to see how this pans out over the next few years.

Peter

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Hello D.ick

 

Did CS cease to exist. Is it Bankrupt. What happened. :(

 

Hope they come back one day.... Otherwise I will have tosafe for an ONOTO.... also nice :)

Wow, you make it sound as if that is a punishment.... :D

Some nice pens, although the range is slightly smaller (perhaps wise...)

 

 

D.ick

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Freedom exists by virtue of self limitation.

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We could also rename it to "Lamy" :P

 

 

:D

 

Or biro maybe :D

I think for some people their sense of geography is off. László Biró was Hungarian and Lamy is German (and a place in New Mexico...)

And besides a biro is a ballpoint.... (ahem)..... no trolling on a serious fountainpen network, please.... :lticaptd:

 

 

D.ick

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"France (soon to be Poland) "

 

Really, what have I missed?

 

gary

Parker, Waterman. It is rumoured that production will be switched soon, but who knows?

Peter

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I think for some people their sense of geography is off.

 

ah, come on, in times of globalisation geography can't count for much.

I just thought that there's a free spot to fill in the subforums.... "move your feet, lose your seat" :blush:

 

 

just kidding (I guess you already noticed that)

Greetings,

Michael

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There was very little traffic here, even when CS was a going concern. As an (unfortunately) deceased entity, I can only see the traffic further decreasing.

 

I personally think the suggestion to move this to the regional section (along with Italian, Japanese and Chinese pens) is, ultimately, the right idea. It would open the forum up to currently produced manufacturers (Onoto, YOL), vintage pens, as well as remaining a place for modern and vintage CSs.

 

I wish we were in a world where Onoto and CS individually generated enough passionate verbiage as certain German manufacturers, but that sadly isn't' the case. This seems like a logical step.

 

Grouping them together may even enlighten lurkers to the existence of the smaller companies, and thereby channel traffic and custom their way. After all, as pen lovers, ain't that in all of our interests?

Too many pens; too little writing.

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