Lamy Safari: Fake Or Real ?

[KBeezie]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LA-EXECUTIVE-GLOSS-WHITE-FINE-NIB-FOUNTAIN-PEN-LIGHT-/201169353668?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ed6a0bbc4

 

Now, here is another offering with the same graphics being offered by a vendor with another ID. This is beginning to smell not so good!

 

When I was checking out "new listings" earlier today, there was 20 different 0-feedback sellers listing a ballpoint pen at 0.99 calling it a fountain pen and the description as only "not working". Everything identical except the seller name.

 

Not to mention, in that listing the pen actually shows the Lamy logo on it.

Edited September 14, 2014 by KBeezie

[RMN]

RMN, scroll down to the other photographs and will see Lamy imbossed on the barrel.

Are we looking at the same ad?

 

The only pics I see, apart from links to other listings, and a lady with headset are 2 pictures, one the same as up, the second of a section, barrel and converter. That barrel has no embossing. Next to these two are 3 empty places.

 

D.ick

[k3eax]

You're quite correct Dick. try this link.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LA-EXECUTIVE-GLOSS-WHITE-FINE-NIB-FOUNTAIN-PEN-LIGHT-/201169353668?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ed6a0bbc4

[PAKMAN]

Entirely different vendor.

[KBeezie]

Entirely different vendor.

 

But it's not uncommon for a single seller (especially from China) to have a dozen different accounts as not to put all their eggs in one basket if they get caught or get too many negatives.

[pen2paper]

The box with Lamy printed on it does not look like any of my recent year Lamy printed boxes..

Missing the last two, so it could have changed?

 

The price of a real Lamy with realLamt reseller, and real Lamy service is not a bad deal. Is this ebay seller going to stand behind an issue?

My single issue ever, cracked feed, was in my mailbox from the seller on the day I delivered the bad one to my post office. No charge BTW, though he is a well known seller here.

[KBeezie]

The box with Lamy printed on it does not look like any of my recent year Lamy printed boxes..

Missing the last two, so it could have changed?

 

The price of a real Lamy with realLamt reseller, and real Lamy service is not a bad deal. Is this ebay seller going to stand behind an issue?

My single issue ever, cracked feed, was in my mailbox from the seller on the day I delivered the bad one to my post office. No charge BTW, though he is a well known seller here.

 

The Lamy box I have looks nearly the same EXCEPT that the lamy logo on the box is silver in color with rows of fine lines running thru it (because the paint goes to the surface, but not into the grooves of the box itself).

Edited September 14, 2014 by KBeezie

[Algester]

Indeed it is no real fake as it nowhere claims to be a Lamy, apart from sitting close to a box

 

K3eax can think it is real if he wants but the most telling is the absence of the word LAMY on the tail of the barrel.

The Safari has LAMY in relief. This is obviously completely absent.

 

So it is no Lamy fake but a lookalike.

 

 

D.ick

ahh but there is an exact Lamy replica in China so detecting more of the counterfeit will be harder

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/267633-buyer-beware-lamy-safari-on-ebay/?p=3116709

if this is going to say anything

Edited September 14, 2014 by Algester

[k3eax]

Thanks for your posting and link, Algester. You have convinced me that the eBay offerings mentioned in my earlier posts are indeed fakes!

[RMN]

You're quite correct Dick. try this link.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LA-EXECUTIVE-GLOSS-WHITE-FINE-NIB-FOUNTAIN-PEN-LIGHT-/201169353668?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ed6a0bbc4

Yep, but there the product description says it is a Jinhao. So a Jinhao pen with Lamy embossed. If you say it's a Jinhao, does it count as a fake??

 

 

D.ick

[KBeezie]

Yep, but there the product description says it is a Jinhao. So a Jinhao pen with Lamy embossed. If you say it's a Jinhao, does it count as a fake??

 

 

D.ick

 

Likely a copy/paste description. But if it takes standard international, it's more likely taken from a Jinhao 599, except the 599 has a different style clip and slightly different shape. The Hero clone is much closer which can take the same nibs as Lamy (but also takes Lamy cartridges/converter).

 

Course you could always report the listing as mis-representing a brand since they have conflicting information in both description and title. Or you could even report it as a fake providing some kind of "visual" evidence on how you "know" its a counterfeit.

 

but I suspect eBay is bias and in favor of their huge chinese power sellers.

[GTVi]

My spider-sense tells me its not a genuine Lamy.

I am a proponent of "if it walks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, I call it a duck."

 

So I decided to Email the seller, and asked if it was a genuine Lamy...their reply?..."No it is not"

[KBeezie]

My spider-sense tells me its not a genuine Lamy.

I am a proponent of "if it walks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, I call it a duck."

 

So I decided to Email the seller, and asked if it was a genuine Lamy...their reply?..."No it is not"

 

Did you report them based on that? Ebay can look at in-system communications. It falls under counterfeit if it's labeled as a Lamy on the product itself.

[GTVi]

Yes. I have reported it. No doubt the seller will pop up a new business name again and repeat the same. Its like fighting spot fires.

[arcadeflow]

There are counterfeited Safaris out there, it doesn't matter if the pen is branded Lamy, it could still be a fake. Don't buy Lamy from eBay unless you trust the seller.