Lamy Safari: Fake Or Real ?

[k3eax]

I've been seeing this repeatedly offered on eBay. Comments are welcomed.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LA-EXECUTIVE-FROSTED-BLACK-FINE-NIB-FOUNTAIN-PEN-LIGHT-/251642430498?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a970ec422

[PAKMAN]

Fake. Dealer is in China selling exclusively Chinese pens. Even though leaned up on a Lamy box the nib and label side of pen is hidden. It even says the brand is LA Executive.

[Algester]

without the other pictures I can't say

[Jerry Adair]

Doesn't appear that he/she lays claim to Lamy, simply calls it LA Pen. I guess I wonder too why anyone would fake a $20 pen. Nor does he/she try to obfuscate their location. I don't think they are tryng to fool anyone, just copying what may be a good design. Do note that the section is in German. I speak fair German but could not see the words clearly. I don't think that even the casual LAmy buyer would be fooled by these pens.

Look at all of the middle 20th century copies of the Vacumatic from Italy. That was an expensive pen in the day.

Jerry

[Glenn Atkins]

fake. the word "lamy" is not even on the page.

 

Glenn

[Jerry Adair]

fake. the word "lamy" is not even on the page.

 

Glenn

Look on the box the pen is leaning on it says "Lamy"

Jerry

[Glenn Atkins]

Look on the box the pen is leaning on it says "Lamy"

Jerry

 

Jerry, you are right on that. I missed it, my apologies. I had just searched the page for "Lamy." I'm still going with fake.

 

Glenn

[k3eax]

Thanks for all the replies. Now after having done some cogitatin' on the matter, I'm going to say that the pen is NOT a fake and here's why. The vendor has auctioned off several such pens on eBay and probably will continue to do so. Certainly if the pens were fake or the photo misleading, purchasers would have complained to eBay and further auctioning of such would have been disallowed. Ergo, real!

 

As of this writing the price has been bid up to $8USD. Is anyone willing to bid sufficiently to win the pen and report back to us? This would be proof-positive.

[GTVi]

It says it takes international standard size ink cartridge. It also weighs more than a Lamy, and a different length...I doubt its a Lamy.

Just because the pen is leaning on a Lamy box does not imply the pen is a Lamy.

[k3eax]

The body length, less cap, of the Lamy Safari is 130mm. The apparent discrepency in weight could possible be due to a weight measured with or without the cartridge. I cannot account for the statement that it takes an international cartridge other than to say that the statement might have been made in error.

[PAKMAN]

Frankly it states that it is a LA Executive brand pen and they are trying to con you into thinking it is Lamy by putting the Lamy box in the ad. IF it was a Lamy they would clearly state that because the Lamy has an MSRP in the $35 dollar range and they would be more likely to get that. It's is a fake Chinese Lamy look a like worth $2.5 tops and they are hoping for more with people thinking that it might be a Lamy.

[KBeezie]

Frankly it states that it is a LA Executive brand pen and they are trying to con you into thinking it is Lamy by putting the Lamy box in the ad. IF it was a Lamy they would clearly state that because the Lamy has an MSRP in the $35 dollar range and they would be more likely to get that. It's is a fake Chinese Lamy look a like worth $2.5 tops and they are hoping for more with people thinking that it might be a Lamy.

 

It's their way to avoid the listing from being pulled because they'll be like "We never said it was a Lamy...", and a lot of times eBay accepts that excuse despite any "implied" imagery in the pictures.

[k3eax]

There is no such "LA Executive" pen and so if it is a Lamy I would suspect that dubbing it "LA Executive" is a way of avoiding the wrath of the boys from Heidelberg.

[k3eax]

By the way if you scroll-down the listing, there are additional photo's that do reveal what is positively a Lamy Safari. Me thinks that the only way to prove or disprove the authenticity is to obtain the actual pen. Again my bet is that it is "for-real".

[Charles Rice]

Is it a "fake"? Not really. It states that, :Brand:LA It does not say that it is a Lamy.

 

But misleading - yes.

[richardandtracy]

I fear that it's likely to be a fake.

I have my suspicions that 'Share Enjoy' is yet another guise for 'comeon1988' and 'combinedshipping'. The leaflet I got from 'ShareEnjoy' was an updated version of one I got from both the other sellers advertising a website of fake pens (one that is no longer in existence) the year before. Apart from a reference to a different website, it was identical.

 

The thing that does surprise me is that this seller is now being bold enough to sell stuff that is probably fake directly on E-Bay, a step I have not seen them take before.

Not good.

 

Regards,

 

Richard.

[PAKMAN]

By the way if you scroll-down the listing, there are additional photo's that do reveal what is positively a Lamy Safari. Me thinks that the only way to prove or disprove the authenticity is to obtain the actual pen. Again my bet is that it is "for-real".

Me thinks you should buy it to prove your point and let us know!!

[RMN]

Indeed it is no real fake as it nowhere claims to be a Lamy, apart from sitting close to a box

 

K3eax can think it is real if he wants but the most telling is the absence of the word LAMY on the tail of the barrel.

The Safari has LAMY in relief. This is obviously completely absent.

 

So it is no Lamy fake but a lookalike.

 

 

D.ick

[k3eax]

RMN, scroll down to the other photographs and will see Lamy imbossed on the barrel.

[k3eax]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LA-EXECUTIVE-GLOSS-WHITE-FINE-NIB-FOUNTAIN-PEN-LIGHT-/201169353668?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ed6a0bbc4

 

Now, here is another offering with the same graphics being offered by a vendor with another ID. This is beginning to smell not so good!