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So on another forum I frequent, not dedicated to FPs but with a "Pens" subforum, a member mentioned he picked up a bottle of BSiAR and believed he got the old version. He didn't care for the color. I immediately offered to buy the bottle off him, even though I already had a bottle of the old formula (not to mention a bottle of the new).

 

It was in the mailbox today, and I quickly opened it to take a look before I had to go in to work... In the bottle it looked like the new BSiAR. If you've compared how they both look when clinging to the glass, you'll know what I'm talking about.

 

So I grabbed both my bottles and did a few q-tip swabs... The picture was done for our conversation on the other forum, hence the "My BSiAR" and "Your BSiAR" writings next to the swabs.

 

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc203/BigBassin/output_zpseja04c49.jpg

 

What do you guys think about this?

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The bottle I have looks more like #2. Recently bought from Goulet. I was expecting it to look like #3 (I love purple inks)

 

Added a picture. I apologize for the quality.

 

http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg539/Ulfgrim/Mobile%20Uploads/photo_zps216fe65a.jpg

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I have not seen anything like #2 yet on these pages, nor in the Goulet alert video on the product. I have #1 (from over a year ago). The new vids and pics look like #3. I got no clue what that #2 is.

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My opinion is the polar opposite of Jeffery's on this one, but I think you were probably asking about the possibility that there are at least three versions of this ink out there. I don't know what to think about that except, well that's Noodler's for you. Love 'em or hate 'em, it's always going to be interesting.

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My opinion is the polar opposite of Jeffery's on this one, but I think you were probably asking about the possibility that there are at least three versions of this ink out there. I don't know what to think about that except, well that's Noodler's for you. Love 'em or hate 'em, it's always going to be interesting.

yeah, my bottle of Golden Brown came to me with less "gold" in it than the sample I had tried a few months earlier. A bit annoying, actually. It was the strong streak of gold I was looking for....

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I don't really know what's up with this odd third version... I haven't put it in a pen to write with it yet.

 

The person I bought the bottle off of recently purchased another bottle from Goulet (the bottle that I now have came from a seller on Amazon). He said it looks the same as the second swab in my picture. He contacted Goulet and they weren't really sure either, but it sounded like they were going to send him a new bottle and try and find out what was going on.

So many inks, so little time...

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I don't know if this makes a difference or not, but I have only bought BSiAR in sample vials, as I only use it in one of my pens regularly. The last vials I bought, a few months ago, look like the first one.

 

Has Noodlers admitted to changing the shade?

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I don't know if this makes a difference or not, but I have only bought BSiAR in sample vials, as I only use it in one of my pens regularly. The last vials I bought, a few months ago, look like the first one.

 

Has Noodlers admitted to changing the shade?

 

The manufacturer of the dye components stopped making the dye used in the original BSiAR. This led to the reformulation to the new formula in July (which is represented by the 3rd swab in my picture). Don't really know what's up with the middle swab, which seems to be what a few people have gotten from a couple vendors recently.

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I inked this new mysterious BSiAR in a Pilot Metropolitan M this morning. It doesn't feel as lubricated as the original formula, or my bottle of the new purplier one. I do kind of like the color though...

 

I'd still like to know what is going on, if it's a bad batch, or maybe Nathan trying to get the color closer to the original. Out of a pen, it doesn't have as much fuchsia/pink as the middle swab in my picture shows. I'd like to see, if after being alerted to the issue, if Goulet can find anything out.

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That explains some things for me. I got a sample of BSiAR from Goulet Pens a few weeks ago and it matches the middle sample the closest. I couldn't figure out of I had a sample of the new version or the old version (since it was my first time using any version of that ink). It makes sense that there might be a third variation.

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From what I've seen/read/heard, Nathan makes all of the Noodler's inks by hand, so there's bound to be some variation between batches of a particular color (I make this point a deliberate reformulations aside, that is). I've had several experiences with Noodler's where the bottle didn't quite match up to the sample I got. Noodler's Turquoise...the ink from the sample was a little more blue while the ink from the bottle was more green.

 

I've even seen variation between samples, although that may be due to not having shaken the bottle before drawing out the sample, as the ink in question is one that tends develop a sediment at the bottom of the bottle.

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I too got a sample of BSiAR recently and it looks more like the middle one. I thought I had gotten a sample from an old batch since it's my first time getting this ink.

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Hello A144,

 

I'm thinking, "WOW, what color did he use to write the text?" - I love that blue-green color.

 

Best regards,

 

Chris

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Quite a difference. Thank you for sharing!

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Hello A144,

 

I'm thinking, "WOW, what color did he use to write the text?" - I love that blue-green color.

 

Best regards,

 

Chris

 

That would be Iroshizuku Syo-ro.

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I've had several experiences with Noodler's where the bottle didn't quite match up to the sample I got. Noodler's Turquoise...the ink from the sample was a little more blue while the ink from the bottle was more green.

And I've seen just the opposite between the sample of 54th MA I originally tried, and what is coming out of the bottle. Fortunately for me, I actually prefer the stuff from the bottle -- it's lighter and a bit bluer. And, for the most part, pretty well behaved (which you can't say about some Noodler's inks...).

I'm considering getting a sample of the reformulated BSiAR at some point, to see how it compares to the bottle I got a couple of years ago. From the reviews/scans I've seen so far, I might really like the reformulation *better* than the original.... And I liked the original formulate quite a bit.

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Have a look at the bottle to see if it's darker at the bottom. I have a bottle of red-black which needs to be shaken up once in a while as the black settles to the bottom and I'm left with red at the top. It could be the old stuff and the black has settled.

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Have a look at the bottle to see if it's darker at the bottom. I have a bottle of red-black which needs to be shaken up once in a while as the black settles to the bottom and I'm left with red at the top. It could be the old stuff and the black has settled.

 

This has happened to me with a few Noodler's blue-blacks, like Benevolent Badger Blue. At first, it was a very light blue, but after shaking was much better.

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