Find A Waterproof Asa-Gao (Dark Blue)

[GnaRocksTheWorld]

Anyone knows of an ink the colour of Iroshizuku Asa-Gao with its deep blue colour but waterproof? I found Asa-Gao to be the perfect colour for the office, but it is not very water resistant...

[Algester]

seiboku?

[dneal]

Truly waterproof, or water resistant?

 

For waterproof, look at the De Atramentis document inks. Not an exact match, but close.

[bardiir]

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Blue inks with quite good Water-Resistance, they do lean more into black however on the really resistant inks, I guess a very bright blue dye is not available extremely waterresistant:

 

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Click on the color-cards for more info.

 

You might want to stay away from these:

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Edited September 8, 2014 by bardiir

[amberleadavis]

Since you are in Singapore, you can probably try one of the Hero inks. One of them is water poof.

[mhosea]

Anyone knows of an ink the colour of Iroshizuku Asa-Gao with its deep blue colour but waterproof? I found Asa-Gao to be the perfect colour for the office, but it is not very water resistant...

Sorry, I don't, but Pilot Blue is very water resistant. It is not nearly as vibrant as Asa Gao, unfortunately. As mentioned, Sailor Sei Boku is waterproof, but the color is even less like Asa Gao than Pilot Blue. None of the waterproof cellulose reactive inks are very close, though if you don't mind that it's only partially waterproof, Noodler's Liberty's Elysium is about as vibrant as the cellulose reactive inks get. For more standard blues, Montblanc and Faber Castell make water resistant blues. There's Platinum Pigment Blue, and DeAtramentis has a medium blue document ink. Again, no Asa Gao look-a likes there, but maybe one of them will be OK. Oh, and I usually don't mention it, but Noodler's Baystate Blue is quite water resistant, though many people have a love-hate relationship with it for one reason or another.

Edited September 11, 2014 by mhosea

[napalm]

Platinum Pigmented Blue is the closest in hue. Unfortunately it's quite lighter in saturation.

[welch]

I have mixed Asa Gao, the world's most beautiful ink, with late 1940's Quink Royal Blue...art deco bottle with plastic cap. (The plastic cap seems to have preserved the old Quink better than the metal caps). Quink is not "modern waterproof", but it is very stubborn. It resists washing off a page.

 

I've also mixed Asa Gao and Pilot Blue, which is supposed to be waterproof and is a bit lighter than Asa Gao.

 

Both mixes do well.

[Lou Erickson]

I'm going to try mixing some Asa Gao with Blue Ghost. amberleadavis, who is very wise regarding ink (and certain ghosts), mentioned that "Ghost Blue is the perfect mixing ink. You add it any ink you like but it has NO staying power. Ghost Blue will make it a little more water resistant, a little more fade resistant and a little more tamper resistant."

 

Later in the thread they said I'd want no more than 30% Blue Ghost. I haven't tried it yet, but will. Maybe it'll make Asa-Gao stick a little better. A touch of Namiki blue might help, but is more likely to change the perfect Asa-Gao-ness.

Edited September 11, 2014 by Lou Erickson

[GnaRocksTheWorld]

The Blue Ghost mix sounds cool, although I don't have Blue Ghost. I do have Namiki Blue, but in cartridges only. I do have Noodler's Liberty's Elysium though, and I'm currently trying to dilute it for everyday use (the ink on its own dries super quickly and forms some substance at the nib), else it does not write in my Fine Pilot Custom 74 with no pressure. I still prefer the color of Asa-Gao though.

[amberleadavis]

I'm going to try mixing some Asa Gao with Blue Ghost. amberleadavis, who is very wise regarding ink (and certain ghosts), mentioned that "Ghost Blue is the perfect mixing ink. You add it any ink you like but it has NO staying power. Ghost Blue will make it a little more water resistant, a little more fade resistant and a little more tamper resistant."

 

Later in the thread they said I'd want no more than 30% Blue Ghost. I haven't tried it yet, but will. Maybe it'll make Asa-Gao stick a little better. A touch of Namiki blue might help, but is more likely to change the perfect Asa-Gao-ness.

 

Let me know how it works for you.

[Lou Erickson]

Discovered my Blue Ghost is polluted, which is a bummer. Had enough of the sample vial to mix a bit to try, though. Have to decide if I'm going to buy a bottle of Blue Ghost or Whiteness Of The Whale.

 

Mixed a little Asa-Gao + BG, and Asa Gao + BG + Namiki Blue. Maybe I should have used Noodler's Luxury Blue.

 

Question: What's the best way to test these? I picked up some cheap dip pens, but they're, frankly, awful. Are the easy-to-clean glass dip pens worth it? Which ones? The J. Herbin that Jetpens has? The R&K that Goulet has (I'd trust Goulet's judgement) or others?

[Brian1]

I have no experience mixing Blue Ghost with other inks but I have mixed Whiteness of The Whale with other inks. Whiteness of the Whale will make the ink you mix it into lighter in color.

 

As for testing inks I just dip a currently unfilled pen into my test ink and write with it. If I have only one unused pen I then flush the pen and let it dry completely before testing another ink mix. I have thought about getting a dip pen for testing my ink mixes but so far I have not purchased one.

[amberleadavis]

Read the reviews on glass pens before you buy them. I am not as thrilled as I once was.

[Lou Erickson]

Read the reviews on glass pens before you buy them. I am not as thrilled as I once was.

Hrm. Well, maybe I won't dive in to anything. I'll see if the ordinary dip pens I bought can be made to work a little better. Or just dip a fountain pen. I have a Metro that's easy to clean.

[amberleadavis]

Hrm. Well, maybe I won't dive in to anything. I'll see if the ordinary dip pens I bought can be made to work a little better. Or just dip a fountain pen. I have a Metro that's easy to clean.

 

I'd suggest a metro or maybe the Jinhao 599 - $6 gets you a pen and a converter.

[Lou Erickson]

 

I'd suggest a metro or maybe the Jinhao 599 - $6 gets you a pen and a converter.

Under $3 each if you're willing to get a colorful set of 12. Pity I dislike the triangular section so much. I'm sure there's other inexpensive pens that'd do, too.

 

I admit, all the Jinhaos I've got are having problems where the converter falls apart and won't make any vacuum. I'm going to have to replace them; it's cheaper to buy a whole new pen than a different international converter. This makes me sad. I'm also fiddling with trying to glue them. Clearly, I need some shellac...

[amberleadavis]

Hmm.... I looked at some of those sets and some sets don't include the converters which is a pain! A few years ago, I bought a set of 24 converters. They aren't that great, I gave them away when I became a TWSBI fiend. Anyway, you might give it a try. Thanks for the link!

[tonybelding]

Anyone knows of an ink the colour of Iroshizuku Asa-Gao with its deep blue colour but waterproof? I found Asa-Gao to be the perfect colour for the office, but it is not very water resistant...

 

Such irony! I'm undertaking an almost opposite quest now. I'm trying to find something that looks like the very waterproof (and bleach-proof, and laser-resistant!) Noodler's Texas Blue Bonnet, but without being so high-maintenance. I adore the color and shading of this ink, but it smells sort of skunky, and it leaves stubborn blue deposits on nibs and feeds.

 

I just ordered a bunch of sample vials from Goulet. I sent for a sample of Tsuki-yo, but not Asa-Gao. Based on the swab I assumed Asa-Gao is a bit too purple-tinted for my taste. I really dislike purple-ish blue inks. If I fail to find anything close, I may resort to mixing.

 

And BTW, I find that dip pens generally don't write like fountain pens and thus are not good for testing inks. You're better off dipping your fountain pen and then rinsing it off.

[SeeksAdvice]

Discovered my Blue Ghost is polluted, which is a bummer. Had enough of the sample vial to mix a bit to try, though. Have to decide if I'm going to buy a bottle of Blue Ghost or Whiteness Of The Whale.

 

Mixed a little Asa-Gao + BG, and Asa Gao + BG + Namiki Blue. Maybe I should have used Noodler's Luxury Blue.

 

Question: What's the best way to test these? I picked up some cheap dip pens, but they're, frankly, awful. Are the easy-to-clean glass dip pens worth it? Which ones? The J. Herbin that Jetpens has? The R&K that Goulet has (I'd trust Goulet's judgement) or others?

 

Let me guess, the Blue Ghost looked a bit like a slurry if you shook it? I'm really becoming convinced that some of Noodler's ink runs had problems. My bottle of Blue Ghost was never opened, yet has stuff in it that eventually settles out.