Please Define "restored" Vs. "fully Restored"

[Derivativemusic]

You see that all over eBay. If a 51 (or any pen) is cleaned and works well, does it fit either definition?

 

Of course I understand it takes years of experience and thousands of dollars worth of vintage new old-stock tooling to clean a pen to the level of Master Connoisseur de 51, but I'm just asking from a caveat emptor standpoint.

 

TIA

[gweimer1]

$25?

[Florida Blue]

You see that sometimes at pen shows and from various dealers as well.

 

Some dealers sell a pen as simply "restored," meaning the filling system has been restored, maybe the nib worked on a little, and the pen can take up ink and write.

 

"Fully restored," I would take to mean the nib has been tuned, plastic parts buffed, trim polished, clip tightened (if sprung) and in some cases the Lustraloy cap has been re-frosted, jewel replaced and trim re-plated.

 

Both types of pens are technically "restored," but one has also been cosmetically restored back to a factory-new like appearance.

Edited August 29, 2014 by Florida Blue

[OcalaFlGuy]

At least with Esties, when *I* say Fully Restored, it's just My way of saying, No kiddin' now. I MEAN it.

 

(I DID get a good chuckle from you there GW.)

Bruce in Ocala, Fl

[white_lotus]

It'd be nice if "restored" meant a bit more than "I replaced the sac", or "It takes up ink".

 

Restored should mean "fully functional", which means the nib is good and in alignment as well as properly working filling system.

 

As Florida Blue says "Fully restored" should mean restored to brand new from the factory condition.

[Derivativemusic]

Okay, thanks. What I get from this is that it means "it works," because usually it's accompanied by "dents in the cap" or something.

[FarmBoy]

Make life simple. Ask the seller who 'restored' the pen.

 

The answer isn't that important, most of the time you will get to restore the pen when it comes.

 

FB.

[Alex2014]

My opinion is that 'fuly restored' is a non-sense and a marketing description.A serious seller should specify if he made more than to replace the sac, polish, clean, etc. Re-blacking the rubber parts, replacing the bar or re-tipping the nib are some operations that have to be announced for a 'fully restored' FP

[KBeezie]

Seems some people's definition of "Fully" restored is confusing as well...

 

For example *this*

 

http://static.karlblessing.com/pens/skyline_burgundy/full.jpg

 

Was sold to me as "fully" restored (auction winning, was cheap, though I did fix it up the rest of the way, and polish it a tiny bit).

 

 

If it was fully restored, then in my opinion it would need to meet the following:

• Has a clip
• not using pink teflon tape to fix the inner cap
• doesn't have scratches

"Fully", should be like-new or pretty damn close.

 

Seems that to some sellers, fully restored just means it's back to "writing" condition and that you can still put the cap on and such. But I don't see a shortage of over using the term.

 

Just simply "Restored" could mean any number of things, with the bare minimum being the capability of filling, holding the ink, and writing.(usually sac replaced, nib, feed and internals cleaned and adjusted at the very minimum).

Edited August 30, 2014 by KBeezie