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Visconti Palladium Stub vs Pelikan #8 3B

 

Which stub is more smooth and does not skip and more springy or flexy to give slight line variations?

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I can't speak to the factory Palladium Stub, although I do have several of the Palladium nibs, 2 of which are mediums and have been ground into stubs (1 into a basic stub, and 1 into a sharper CI style stub). These Palladium stubs are my favorite nibs to write with, the line variation combined with the springiness of the Palladium nibs is just heaven. But these are not as broad as the factory Palladium stubs.

 

Something to keep in mind: I just bought a pen with a Palladium nib and was trying to decide between an F and a stub. The dealer who sold me the pen, warned me away from the stub, saying that all the stubs he'd sold recently had needed tuning (or more involved adjustment) in order to be acceptable. I have no idea if this is a short term or long term thing. Personally I know several people who have factory Visconti Palladium stubs, and love them.

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I recently purchased a factory palladium stub, even after the dealer went through his stock to find the best one it still had trouble starting every few words. The gold plating of the design was also defective (incomplete and off center). I had it tuned, and it turned out to have a slight baby bottom. After smoothing and a heat set it's a great writer, but while very soft (slightly softer than a Pelikan M800 18k IB) it offers almost no line variation when gently flexed. Hope this helps.

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I had MB 149 18K nib re-tipped to 1.3mm CI and love it when I hit the sweet spots. Being 18K it gives a bit but not springy.

It glides and guides me with thick juicy strokes. It allows me to give it a fancy curves in a fast speed.

I'm hooked now and want more smoother stub.

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Please allow me the question:

 

what is a Pelikan #8 nib? I have plenty of their pens, but I never recognized a number on it... and I am mod at the german Pelikan Forum...

 

Oh, and before I forget it: the 3B in a Pelikan is no Stub - it's a 3B. The only nib that comes near to a Stub is the IB for the M800. But It's an Italic

 

And if I would have to select between the 1.3 of the HS and the IB of the M800 I would say "go try to take one away from me - it will be my pleasure to send you into orbit..."

 

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And if I would have to select between the 1.3 of the HS and the IB of the M800 I would say "go try to take one away from me - it will be my pleasure to send you into orbit..."

 

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They are both great nibs, aren't they? :)
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Please allow me the question:

 

what is a Pelikan #8 nib? I have plenty of their pens, but I never recognized a number on it... and I am mod at the german Pelikan Forum...

 

Oh, and before I forget it: the 3B in a Pelikan is no Stub - it's a 3B. The only nib that comes near to a Stub is the IB for the M800. But It's an Italic

 

And if I would have to select between the 1.3 of the HS and the IB of the M800 I would say "go try to take one away from me - it will be my pleasure to send you into orbit..."

 

:)

I see that you love Palladium stub that much, huh!

There is a sale going on for Visconti Opera club and I think I'll take an advantage of it.

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Please allow me the question:

 

what is a Pelikan #8 nib? I have plenty of their pens, but I never recognized a number on it... and I am mod at the german Pelikan Forum...

 

Oh, and before I forget it: the 3B in a Pelikan is no Stub - it's a 3B. The only nib that comes near to a Stub is the IB for the M800. But It's an Italic

 

And if I would have to select between the 1.3 of the HS and the IB of the M800 I would say "go try to take one away from me - it will be my pleasure to send you into orbit..."

 

:)

What's the difference between the two? Stub is more smoother and Italic is more crisp? Stub for fast writing and Italic for slow? Doesn't italic catch the paper more often?

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What's the difference between the two?

 

Check http://www.nibs.com/FAQDifferenceBetweenNibsAnswer.htm

 

 

Pelikan #8 size nib as it is described.

 

I still don't get the picture. Who describes it and on what base?

 

Don't get me wrong - I know that there are nibs defined by numbers. But I do not support that "general way of defining" nibs with numbers, even while they are not interchangeable or even comparable... And a "Pelikan #8" just doesn't exist.

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"The nib on the Pelikan Fountain Pen Special Edition Souverän M800 is a large #8 size nib, and compliments the pen wonderfully.

 

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I don't know, I'm just going by Bryant's quotes.

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Ah, now I understand it - "#8" is an invention of Chatterley.

 

Regarding your mentioned opinions:

 

- "Pelikan 3B is like a stub" - in Germany we say "One mans opinion is his kingdom of heaven". If this is michelims opinion, then it's ok for him.

- yes, the M800 3B is smaller than the M1000 3B - but these nibs are in any case completely different. Try them, I will not loose time with descriptions.

- "Then, what is the size #8? for M800" - as I say, I do not care for inventions

- "IS M1000 nib size #10?" - I still not care...

- "It looks like M1000 3B is what I like." - then keep on searching - Pelikan does not produce 3B anymore.

 

Resume: from my point of view it does not make much sense to "think" about nibs a) before you have even tried them and B) that are mostly out of production

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I have an M1000 3B. Very flexy, soft, and wet.

The M800 3B is blobby, stiff and wet.

Visconti is not as soft as the M1000 but not stiff either. VERY obvious line differentiation as opposed to the firehose Pelikan.

 

3 very different nibs.

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I have an M1000 3B. Very flexy, soft, and wet.

The M800 3B is blobby, stiff and wet.

Visconti is not as soft as the M1000 but not stiff either. VERY obvious line differentiation as opposed to the firehose Pelikan.

 

3 very different nibs.

This is the answer that I have been waiting for.

Would this be same as M1000 3B nib?

https://chatterleyluxuries.com/product/pelikan-fountain-pen-special-edition-souveran-m800-black-blue/

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No. The 805 is a silver trim version of the M800. So expect a silver trim pen body with a firmly generous nib slightly less precise in line variation than the Visconti stub. I like them, but stuck with the softer M1000 because I write with very little pressure and prefer a larger body. If you like a MB 146 sized piston filler with a super broad nib, you'll probably like the M805.

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No. The 805 is a silver trim version of the M800. So expect a silver trim pen body with a firmly generous nib slightly less precise in line variation than the Visconti stub. I like them, but stuck with the softer M1000 because I write with very little pressure and prefer a larger body. If you like a MB 146 sized piston filler with a super broad nib, you'll probably like the M805.

Thank you Ghost Plane!

 

This sample writing is MB 149 1.3 custom stub and I like it very much and I was looking for just a little softer nib so I can get a little more line variations.

It sounds like Pelikan M1000 3B might be what I was looking for. I almost thought Palladium stub was it.

I'm not looking for a flex as I want to write in mixture of fast and slow when I do swoosh scripts so I don't want to bend nib or digging into papers.

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Try both the Pd and the 3B. Both are soft. Both are wet.

 

I regret I'm not in a position to provide samples with mine, but a hunt on the board should provide notions of what they can do. Both can equal your 149 sample in subtly different ways.

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