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Sailor My First Pen, Crystal And Lecoule Nib's Secondary Purpose?


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I know looking at the Sailor website these pens are entry pens designed for ages 6+, but has anyone tried to use them as signing carbon documents? because considering how the nibs of these was intended to be very rigid it will take up with a heavy handed writer, will it work on carbon documents without ink feathering like mad?

if so will it be like the Kakuno, Excluding the Fude nib on the My first pen... that thing is wet as hell... and doesnt need much pressure before it writes

 

because right now I'm contemplating about getting an esterbrook J with a 9461 nib (manifold fine to you and me) if I can probably make a starting compare and contrast on the feel of these pens

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Hi,

 

As far as I can tell, those nibs were not designed specifically as manifold nibs or to be incredibly rigid for heavy handed writers. In fact, when I've used them, I didn't find them as robust as many other pens intended for younger children. They work very well though for most writers including the very young. I have a couple right here at this moment. In my experience, not all younger children have an incredibly heavy hand or have a heavy hand at all. Most pens intended for younger writers have fairly normal nibs that are indeed a bit stiff, but aren't made specifically to be incredibly rigid. The nib used on the Lamy ABC or Pelikan Pelikano aren't particularly rigid and do have some give in comparison to many nibs made to be much stiffer.

 

If you want something that is really stiff, here is a pen you might find interesting. The unique geometry of the nib makes for a very stiff nib. The nib itself is made of very thick metal. Having the convex instead of concave cut on the tines makes for an incredibly stiff nib. The Aurora Optima, unlike the Sailor gets a large amount of stiffness from the lateral curvature of the nib.

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If I were to compare, the Esterbrook 9461 is indeed quite stiff. The shorter tines and geometry make it that way. The feel of the nibs on the paper are all quite different though.
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well then I guess there's only one way for my Lecoule... despite liking the form factor the nib... is abit too say a bit toothy and feedbacky for me (no matter what ink I use I feel a lot of "resistance" when writing) not to mention I'm a lefty I do like how it writes a very crisp line compared to a lot of my pens I'm contemplating should I put it into a PIF or sell it and probably get myself a Pilot Stella or a proper Professional Gear....

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