A Pair Of Parkers Or So I Thought

[my63]

Whilst wandering around a local market with my wife I found these on a furniture stall

This was the first pen I picked from the box and I just kept it in my hand even without its nob it felt special

 

IMG_7984 by my0771, on Flickr

I saw the blue diamond on the arrow clip and did not look closer as I now need to remove my spectacles to see smaller details it was cheap so I bought both

 

IMG_7991 by my0771, on Flickr

 

Wilson! not what I was expecting so not quite a pair but I think the vac is worth the cost of both

[NobleDel]

I never heard of a Wilson, but it looks pretty interesting.

 

I found this on the net about Wilson pens:

 

https://munsonpens.wordpress.com/category/wilson-pen-company/

[JotterAddict62]

I think I saw a Wilson fountain pen today at a flea market. It was a lever filler ring top.

I should have bought it now after reading this post. I think I might have another chance at it

the dealer said she will be at a flea market a little closer to home base next month.

I'll take a chance at the pen if it is still loose in the wild then.

[mhguda]

I think that looks like one of those old Indian pens Shrujaya has been showcasing only recently... Look here for example, but he has many more.

[mhguda]

I think that looks like one of those old Indian pens Shrujaya has been showcasing only recently... Look here for example, but he has many more.

Think of how that pen would have gotten to your market stall... all sorts of interesting possibilities!

[mhguda]

inexplicable double post...

Edited July 19, 2014 by mhguda

[basterma]

There is a Wilson in Italy as well who make cheap folded nib school pens. I do not know if they made Parker clones earlier in their history. From what I understand many small Italian shops made Parker clones after he war to sell to tourists. However, the earlier remarks are true as this does look a lot like the Indian Wilsons.

[my63]

Thanks for all of the information here is a picture of the full pen

 

The imprint is quite clear "Wilson (regd) Junior"

 

IMG_7982 by my0771, on Flickr

 

There is no sign of a filling mechanism at all

[mhguda]

Yes Michael, you have an Indian Wilson, and it is an eyedropper-filled pen.

Clean it out as you would any other pen (you will find this is very easy with ED) and then find a syringe (blunt needle!) or a small pipette and fill with ink. You may also need some silicone grease to grease the threads between barrel and section; this creates a good seal and prevents ink from leaking out. Once filled, screw the section back in, and when halfway done (or thereabouts), holding it over your ink bottle, continue screwing it closed until it is tight. (Don't overtighten though; a normal close is enough). This primes the feed and will let some ink drops escape back into the bottle.

Welcome to the world of eyedropper-filled fountain pens! There are many threads on FPN that explain how to work with them, their idiosyncrasies, and why people love them (or not). If you find you don't like it, I'd like to buy it from you - remember I offered first! But I think you will like it. It is a simple, old and reliable system, and has served fountain pen users all over India for decades - it is still the standard there, or so I am told.

Enjoy!

 

There may be one item to be aware of, since you do not live in a tropical climate: when the barrel is close to empty, you get a vivid demonstration of heat expansion of air - your hand warms the barrel and so, the air inside, which is enough to push out some of the ink in the feed and under the nib when the pen is in writing position. A beautiful demonstration of some of the laws of physics, which you probably will not like. So when you have written with your pen for a while, and suddenly the flow seems to increase, this is a sign that you need to refill.

[tryphon]

Wilson of Italy made some excellent pens, using top quality materials and nibs. This Vacumatic lookalike (in this case the pen is a lever filler) is from my collection:

 

 

http://s26.postimg.org/ylwmndhax/Wilson2.jpg

[my63]

Thanks everyone for the information

 

Mhguda

It is not a pen I will use and I would like it to go to someone who will use it,

So I will sell it to you but only for what I paid for it.

 

Michael

[basterma]

tryphon, do you have any more information about Wilson of Italy? I have three examples of student pend from the mid 80's and early 90's and can still find cartridges in Egypt pretty regularly. No website that I could find though.

[mhguda]

Thanks everyone for the information

 

Mhguda

It is not a pen I will use and I would like it to go to someone who will use it,

So I will sell it to you but only for what I paid for it.

 

Michael

Thanks Michael, and I would be very happy to take it! if you're sure that is. You never know how you might like it...

If you're not going to try, contact me back channel for the details... because yes, I would use it. And wonder how it came to be in your hands in the first place...

[william2001]

Never heard of it, but may be Parker.

-William S. Park

[tryphon]

tryphon, do you have any more information about Wilson of Italy? I have three examples of student pend from the mid 80's and early 90's and can still find cartridges in Egypt pretty regularly. No website that I could find though.

 

Yes I do and will try and post a short history when I return from my trip (I leave tomorrow on business and will be back on Thursday). I can tell you that the company suffered when the ballpoint arrived on the scene. In the late 1950s and early 1960s they were barely surviving by making (in Settimo, near Turin, using local jobbers) syringe-type piston filler pens for school use. They often had hooded nibs amd even a strange imitation of the SDheaffer inlaid nib. The nibs were of poor quality, with bent tine ends (no iridium). The filling system was simple and the pens were OK for school use. Almost identical pens (probably using the same parts) were also made by Universal and LUS. I remember when I was in school, I bought these pens at a local department store (STANDA: the Italian equivalent of Woolworth's) for 1200 Lire (about $1.75), in 1961. I still have a few in my collections, although the chrome or gilt caps all show some deterioration of the plating.

[kilraughts]

I have found this report very interesting, particularly since I picked up a pen cheap at a market in Northern England, which at first sight appeared to be a Parker Vacumatic. On closer examination the clip which had fins and arrow reminiscent of a Vacumatic had the name AMBER cast in the clip. The pen also has engraving on barrel Amber(SM) Pen has small size steel nib and is an aerometric filler. The pen appears to me to be complete although the ink sack has partially disintegrated. Does anyone out there have any information on the history of this maker?

[tryphon]

I have found this report very interesting, particularly since I picked up a pen cheap at a market in Northern England, which at first sight appeared to be a Parker Vacumatic. On closer examination the clip which had fins and arrow reminiscent of a Vacumatic had the name AMBER cast in the clip. The pen also has engraving on barrel Amber(SM) Pen has small size steel nib and is an aerometric filler. The pen appears to me to be complete although the ink sack has partially disintegrated. Does anyone out there have any information on the history of this maker?

 

It may have been a Japanese knock-off of the Vacumatic. A picture would help.