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How To Recognize A Fake Visconti...should I Be Worried?


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#1 Flagada

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Posted 12 June 2014 - 14:45

After travelling to Italy (Firenze)...I fell in love with Visconti pens alas I didn't purchase any over there. Now that I'm back state side, I ordered 3 within a few days. The first one arrived and I didn't even think about counterfeit pens (I purchased from a Non-AD)....

 

Pen came in proper box with papers / cloth...I used it and it writes beautifully...call me paranoid, as I started to examine the pen, I noticed the workmanship was a little rougher than I remembered in Italy (Visconti sign at the top of the cap not as sharp, the visconti print on the clip, the V on the feed is barely visible, etc...)

 

Here are some photos, should I be concerned? I apologize, I used my iPhone (and the Zoom feature) to capture details.

 

Thanks!!  :thumbup:

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Posted 12 June 2014 - 14:52

Some research on this forum shows that Visconti counterfeits are not rampant (I don't want to assume don't exist?)....I also caught a few reviews of this Homo Sapiens Lava and the pictures people posted show similar if not worse inconsistencies in design (like the Visconti print on the clip was misaligned in one the poster's pictures)....

 

Looking forward to your comments....



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Posted 12 June 2014 - 14:57

Nothing fake about that pen.

 

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Posted 12 June 2014 - 15:25

I would imagine the Homo Sapiens material would be quite hard to counterfeit. I'm pretty sure that pen is real. I wasn't overly impressed with the fit and finish and quality of my midi sized Homo Sapiens and I did buy it from an authorized dealer.


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Posted 12 June 2014 - 15:37

Nothing fake about that pen.

 

HTH,

 

Martin

 

Thanks for the reply!

 

I would imagine the Homo Sapiens material would be quite hard to counterfeit. I'm pretty sure that pen is real. I wasn't overly impressed with the fit and finish and quality of my midi sized Homo Sapiens and I did buy it from an authorized dealer.

 

I think so too... I may be struggling with the Quality / workmanship more than anything else.... I appreciate the response!



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Posted 12 June 2014 - 20:01

Real.

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Posted 12 June 2014 - 20:04

Pukka.



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Posted 12 June 2014 - 20:47

Real deal for sure.



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Posted 12 June 2014 - 21:11

Please..do not worry...'Tis the real deal..enjoy your new pen..

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Posted 12 June 2014 - 23:34

What are the holes in the feed for?


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Posted 13 June 2014 - 00:08

What are the holes in the feed for?


Those are ink droplets.

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 13:53

Yes, they're ink dropplets. I was so excited to get it I filled it up and didn't wiped down properly....



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Posted 13 June 2014 - 20:04

Easy test: use a magnet to see if the "gold" nib is attracted by it. If it is, it's a fake with a steel nib. If it isn't, it's probably the real thing!



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Posted 13 June 2014 - 20:57

This pen was probably mis-examined during quality check.

I had a similar issue with a Blue Ripple (the logo on the clip was not well filled on one side).

Some nibs weren't properly gold plated, also.

Contact the aftersales service through their website, they should take care of these issues.

Mr Del Vecchio, if he still is on this forum, should be joinable by PM (which is faster than the usual message through their website).


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 11:02

Easy test: use a magnet to see if the "gold" nib is attracted by it. If it is, it's a fake with a steel nib. If it isn't, it's probably the real thing!

but palladium can be attracted to magnets therefore your logic is inconclusive... IIRC AND THE NIB IS PALLADIUM :< sorry but...


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 18:27

No way that pen is a fake.  Way too good.



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Posted 16 June 2014 - 14:46

Agree with everyone else. It's the real thing. Yeah, have to say Visconti pens don't have the best quality when compared with pens from Germany or Japan. But they win in the design apartment any day. I have an LE Wall Street that has so many little errors, you'd think it's a cheap pen! Think of them as quirks, and part of the charm of Italian pens.

 

As for fakes, fakes are only made if they are popular with the masses, such as MBs. They don't usually make regular production copies for a  small niche group. If they do make a fake, it will have to be worth their while. So perhaps something that will cost maybe 10 times the price of the regular HS. Great example are those "ultra rare" Leicas from the German army during the wars or an early production version from the 30's. People get taken all the time. The counterfeiters don't bother with copies of regular production screw mount Leicas. Those are common and cheap enough it's not worth it to try and copy those.



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Posted 17 June 2014 - 04:25

Agreed this is definitely real.

 

Is there even counterfeit Viscontis floating around ?



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Posted 17 June 2014 - 16:04

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 19:49

but palladium can be attracted to magnets therefore your logic is inconclusive... IIRC AND THE NIB IS PALLADIUM :< sorry but...

 

Palladium usually is paramagnetic and doesn't interact with magnetic field strongly. In particular Visconti's Pd nibs are not attracted by household magnets (didn't try the real stuff, of course). That being said, however, not that many fountain pen nibs are attracted to magnets regardless the material (dip nibs is a different story), anyway. Among all nibs I have, I believe, only Jinhao's nibs can be picked by a magnet. There was a thread around here somewhere discussing this sort of things.



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Posted 18 June 2014 - 02:46

Agree with everyone else. It's the real thing. Yeah, have to say Visconti pens don't have the best quality when compared with pens from Germany or Japan. But they win in the design apartment any day. I have an LE Wall Street that has so many little errors, you'd think it's a cheap pen! Think of them as quirks, and part of the charm of Italian pens.

 

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Machines don't make mistakes. So small errors tend to indicate work done by human hands. :)



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Posted 18 June 2014 - 02:51

 

Palladium usually is paramagnetic and doesn't interact with magnetic field strongly. In particular Visconti's Pd nibs are not attracted by household magnets (didn't try the real stuff, of course). That being said, however, not that many fountain pen nibs are attracted to magnets regardless the material (dip nibs is a different story), anyway. Among all nibs I have, I believe, only Jinhao's nibs can be picked by a magnet. There was a thread around here somewhere discussing this sort of things.

 

Many stainless steel alloys (the Austenitic or 300 series ones) are non-magnetic.



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Posted 18 June 2014 - 06:10

 

Many stainless steel alloys (the Austenitic or 300 series ones) are non-magnetic.

 

True, therefore chances to expose fake with a magnet are quite slim.