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#1 silver ink

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 11:47

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 11:48

i want to learn copperplate


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#3 perrins57

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 12:33

Go for uniform letter height, your letters get smaller towards the end of words.

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 13:34

should the hand also move horizontally towards the left as we write a word or it is supposed to remain on same spot and only fingers should be adjusted to complete the word?

 

you are right my letters are getting smaller


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 13:49

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 15:29

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 15:31

Your "needs improvement" penmanship far outshines mine.  It looks really good to me...keep up the good work.



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Posted 11 June 2014 - 15:48

thanks

i will practice and post  more


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 21:33

Yes, move the hand, otherwise the movement is limited to the fingers and you are drawing more than writing. It's hard to get freedom of movement as it involves re-learning muscle movement and using muscles in the arm more and hand less. This is what I struggle most with, after years of writing just with the hand I'm learning to use the arm and it's weird at first; but like with all things it's about practice.


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Posted 13 June 2014 - 09:27

yes its never late and with practice one can improve

 

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 15:37

yes its never late and with practice one can improve

 

 

 

Also consider what style and purpose you need to improve for. Your current handwriting is written slowly but looks good, however if you want your handwriting to be fast and attractive at the same time you'll need to practice letter formations.


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Posted 13 June 2014 - 19:20

The classic Spencerian workbooks are a useful tool.

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 09:41

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 09:45

 

Also consider what style and purpose you need to improve for. Your current handwriting is written slowly but looks good, however if you want your handwriting to be fast and attractive at the same time you'll need to practice letter formations.

sir you are right

i right slowly sometimes i even pause for 2,3 seconds in the middle of the word to figure out how to introduce the next letter usually when "r" "p" "f" and "v" come

 

thanks a lot.


Edited by silver ink, 14 June 2014 - 19:38.

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 15:17

should the hand also move horizontally towards the left as we write a word or it is supposed to remain on same spot and only fingers should be adjusted to complete the word?

 

you are right my letters are getting smaller

 

People who write Spencerian or Copperplate (round hand) typically slide the paper with the non-writing hand every few characters. This maintains the relationship between eye and hand. People writing formal Italic do this, as well, for the same reason. Writers of cursive italic typically do slide their hands down the writing line. Spencerian cannot be written successfully unless the hand is free to move in all directions.

 

As a general note, your hand should never be so anchored to the page that either the hand or page can't be repositioned without breaking rhythm.


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 19:37

you are right sir.there is no rhythm right now.

i have to stop in the middle of the word sometimes to determine how to introduce the next letter and  it causes the ink to spread as i do not lift pen during that pause.

i am new to calligraphy and i will consider your advice as i proceed.

thanks a lot.


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Posted 21 June 2014 - 16:16

this a practice sheet from today.

 

i have left the stub nib pen

 

previously as @proton007 had said i was writing slowly and applying more pressure on paper

 

i am trying not to write too slowly now

cause while slowing down pressure also increases

 

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Posted 22 June 2014 - 15:09

I find your letter forms are consistent, but you need to work on improving those forms, and the overall flow of the hand.

 

I know you want to learn Copperplate, however, you also need to practice movements (hand and arm) to gain flow and consistency. Use the iampeth website http://www.iampeth.com/lessons.php and choose a style to practice. Once you've acquired the correct movements, it's easier to write fast and flowing cursive, as well as pick up Copperplate.


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Posted 22 June 2014 - 15:13

 

I find your letter forms are consistent, but you need to work on improving those forms, and the overall flow of the hand.

 

I know you want to learn Copperplate, however, you also need to practice movements (hand and arm) to gain flow and consistency. Use the iampeth website http://www.iampeth.com/lessons.php and choose a style to practice. Once you've acquired the correct movements, it's easier to write fast and flowing cursive, as well as pick up Copperplate.

thanks sir for the link

i am looking at it now

will practice and then post again.


Edited by silver ink, 22 June 2014 - 15:14.

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Posted 22 June 2014 - 16:33

Just curious, but wondering why you use "i" instead of "I" for the personal pronoun.  Being old-school, this really made me stop each time I came to it, as if I were stubbing my toe on something.  Prevented a smooth reading otherwise.   Also, your lowercase letters are over half the height of your line spacing, which decreases the height difference in the capitals and lower case.  Don't worry, I am learning, too!  Perhaps someone can enlighten me.  :)






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