Sheaffer Legacy Heritage Stub

[LuisAAbrilRomero]

Hello there,

 

I am thinking of purchasing a SLH, but I have no opportunity to test the nibs before the purchase, so any help in answering the below questions is greatly appreciated.

 

Can any of the good souls here provide me with a picture of a writing sample of a Sheaffer Legacy Heritage factory stub? And if possible, of a SLH F nib as a comparison? Does the stub can serve as a workhorse as well as the F?

 

Thanks for your help!

 

Luis

Edited May 21, 2014 by LuisAAbrilRomero

[jar]

I don't think any of my Heritages are a stub nib but I do have a factory stub on my Sterling silver Legacy...

 

http://www.fototime.com/7A8488A415B5959/medium800.jpg

 

and on my Washington.

 

http://www.fototime.com/C848681D3476874/medium800.jpg

 

I generally avoid fine nibs if possible and I think my only fine nib Legacy series pens are a 868 Legacy 2 and maybe the Jim Gaston lined gold and a 842 Legacy. If I get a chance anytime soon to get one out I'll try to get a writing sample for you. They are nice as everyday writers, wet and very forgiving when it comes to ink used but lacking the expression of a stub. Those are the second from the top and two bottom pens. Very top is a PFM.

 

http://www.fototime.com/0C659079ECE3EDF/medium800.jpg

[OcalaFlGuy]

I don't think any of my Heritages are a stub nib but I do have a factory stub on my Sterling silver Legacy...

 

http://www.fototime.com/7A8488A415B5959/medium800.jpg

 

 

 

There's a Pen you would KILL for thread in FTF.

 

I wouldn't KILL for that one, but I'd sure give out a pretty severe ass whoopin' for it.

 

Damn Jar, just Damn.

 

Bruce in Ocala, Fl

[saskia_madding]

The stubs are crisp, more like a cursive italic than stub. Some people like this, but for the way I write, it can be quite annoying (it catches on the paper a fair bit).

[OcalaFlGuy]

A good nibmeister could correct that.

 

Here is my Binder UberSmooth CI on an Imperial. The line variation speaks for itself. It is Absolutely Stub Smooth and Does Not catch on the paper

 

It's actually a very bizarre feeling. You can FEEL the sharpness is still there, it just Doesn't Catch.

 

It is Exactly, Precisely, what I asked him for, "I want ALL of the line variation of a CI but I want it as smooth as a Stub."

 

Anyone who says that can't be done is just wrngh. They're just not skilled enough to make it happen.

 

Bruce in Ocala, Fl

 

[cellmatrix]

I rather like those sheaffer factory stubs. They are pretty darn smooth for the amount of line variation they give you. Here is a writing sample from a review I did on one:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7331/11764292803_115a097a45_c.jpg

[saskia_madding]

I prefer less line variation than a cursive italic. Even if mine didn't catch, I still wouldn't think of it as a stub. That's my main point. These factory nibs say they are stub, but in terms of line variation, they are closer to cursive italics.

[dr saleem ali]

Dear Jar and Cellmatrix, SLH with factory made stub nibs as you shown are awsome simply ! And as Bruce has shown R.B's ground nibs are fantastic !

[cellmatrix]

I prefer less line variation than a cursive italic. Even if mine didn't catch, I still wouldn't think of it as a stub. That's my main point. These factory nibs say they are stub, but in terms of line variation, they are closer to cursive italics.

Definitely it's not your typical stub, I agree

[cellmatrix]

Dear Jar and Cellmatrix, SLH with factory made stub nibs as you shown are awsome simply ! And as Bruce has shown R.B's ground nibs are fantastic !

I'm glad to be of help!

[RMN]

@ cellmatrix: that is some decent lettering you've done there

 

 

D.ick

[cellmatrix]

@ cellmatrix: that is some decent lettering you've done there

 

 

D.ick

Thanks Dick- a nice nib like this could make anyone's writing look better!

[sexauerw]

I've always found that the Sheaffer factory stub nibs are much crisper than anyone else's. They're more like italics, smooth and wet when you're on the sweet spot and sharp and dry when you're not, but lots of line variation. I really like them. I've also found that it doesn't really matter what Sheaffer pen you're talking about, all of their factory stubs seem to write pretty much the same.

 

Here's a writing sample from my CP4 Richmond, which is a fancied-up Legacy 1. The Legacy 1, Legacy 2 and Legacy Heritage use essentially identical nibs, although there are some minor differences in the back end of the section that make the nib units non-interchangeable.

http://bulk-share.slickpic.com/album/share/mQT4kONLz4gLzM/3623301.0/800/p/Writing_Sample%2C_Classic_Pens_CP4_Richmond.jpg

 

This Imperial is a 1960's vintage pen.

http://bulk-share.slickpic.com/album/share/mQT4kONLz4gLzM/3623306.0/800/p/Writing_Sample%2C_Sheaffer_Sterling_Imperial_Touchdown.jpg

 

And the Targa is either a 1970's or 1980's pen.

http://bulk-share.slickpic.com/album/share/mQT4kONLz4gLzM/3623307.0/800/p/Writing_Sample%2C_Sheaffer_Targa_1001%2C_Gettysburg_Address.jpg

[sexauerw]

@ cellmatrix

 

It may be that the converter has died. That happened to one of mine. The older squeeze-type converter works just as well and is cheaper, not to mention being far easier to find. Both converters have exactly the same sac inside and will work identically well with the "Touchdown" filling mechanism of the Legacy and Legacy II pens. I would try a squeeze-type converter in the pen and see if that simple fix works.

 

Legacy "Touchdown" converter:

http://bulk-share.slickpic.com/album/share/2zwgwMYz23kcOI/8102456.0/800/p/Sheaffer_Legacy_Touchdown_Converter.jpg

 

Squeeze-type converter:

http://bulk-share.slickpic.com/album/share/2zwgwMYz23kcOI/8102457.0/800/p/Sheaffer_Squeeze_Converter.jpg

 

[plumista]

Buenos días, Luis.

 

Los plumines stub de Sheaffer son sencillamente fantásticos, pero todavía no he encontrado ningún proveedor par las Legacy Heritage. ¿Estás seguro de que tal posibilidad existe de fábrica? Hasta ahora he tenido que convertir un punto B en uno stub yo, a mano, lo mismo que me había pasado con la Legacy II.

 

Si encuentras alguna fuente para estos plumines, por favor avísame. Escribir con ellos es un placer garantizado.

 

plumista

[cellmatrix]

@ cellmatrix

 

It may be that the converter has died. That happened to one of mine. The older squeeze-type converter works just as well and is cheaper, not to mention being far easier to find. Both converters have exactly the same sac inside and will work identically well with the "Touchdown" filling mechanism of the Legacy and Legacy II pens. I would try a squeeze-type converter in the pen and see if that simple fix works.

 

Legacy "Touchdown" converter:

http://bulk-share.slickpic.com/album/share/2zwgwMYz23kcOI/8102456.0/800/p/Sheaffer_Legacy_Touchdown_Converter.jpg

 

Squeeze-type converter:

http://bulk-share.slickpic.com/album/share/2zwgwMYz23kcOI/8102457.0/800/p/Sheaffer_Squeeze_Converter.jpg

 

Thanks for the tip, Sheaffer gave me a new gold plated legacy touchdown converter but it still would not work in this pen. I believe it's due to air leakage in the barrel. No big deal as squeeze converter works very well for it. Edited May 22, 2014 by cellmatrix

[AAAndrew]

I have a Legacy 1 with the touchdown filler. I used to think it didn't work until I read somewhere to leave it in the ink after pushing down the filler. I leave it to the count of fifteen and now it fills well

[georges zaslavsky]

I won two legacy 2 and they are among my favorite pens

[jmccarty3]

I resurrect this thread reluctantly because of a disappointing transaction. For some time I have searched for a Classic Pens Sheaffer Richmond (like BillLS's above), for two reasons: 1) My father's name is Richmond, as is my middle name, and 2) I have heard so many things about the Sheaffer Legacy Heritage factory stub nib.

 

A few days ago, I found the pen I was looking for on penboard.de at a reasonable price. After checking out the seller's reputation on FPN and finding it to be stellar, I ordered the pen, which arrived in Wednesday's mail. The serial number corresponded to the description on the web site, but the pen had a broad nib instead of a stub, and the box was marked "broad" instead of "stub." I emailed the seller about this yesterday, but have not had any reply. The pen's "brother," the Washington, is still listed on the web site, with the same serial number, also as a stub.

 

The question remains, what should I do. I am reluctant to return the pen, because I am not sure I can find another with a stub nib. If I keep it, should I consider having it stubbed by someone like Pendleton Brown? This might make the pen a more suitable writer for me, but might affect the value of the pen considerably, since the box and section are clearly marked "B."

 

Your advice is appreciated.

[jar]

The Sheaffer broad nib is nice but it really is not the Sheaffer stub. On a set like the Washington/Richmond having the matching box and papers will make a small difference in value but I'd rather have a nice stub even if the box only said broad.

 

http://www.fototime.com/829583F3F0D689D/large.jpg

The folk at penboard are good to work with and so ask them to see what nib is actually on the brother and also what that box says. It's always possible that there was just a simple switch by the earlier owner.