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Looking For Some Help With Organic Studios Aristotle

startup problems very dry

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#1 WayTooManyHobbies

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Posted 19 May 2014 - 19:37

Has anyone else had issues with Organic Studios Aristotle?  I love the color, and its behavior on even bad papers is exemplary.  However, it has been an extremely dry ink, with startup problems occurring no matter which pen I try it in.  I know that, as an iron gall ink, Aristotle will demand good pen hygiene but cleaning and refilling every other day seems a bit much. 

 

Any suggestions?  Would dilution help?  I've tried the ink in a number of pens that are usually quite wet, including  Noodler's Konrad, a Pilot Cocoon (Metropolitan), and a Hero 616, but each of them become unusable after a day or two.  R&K Salix has not shown similar issues in the Cocoon.



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Posted 19 May 2014 - 20:40

I've experienced the same hardstarting issues as you have. I don't have a solution, but I am thinking about mixing a small amount of Aristotle in with a free flowing ink, perhaps Parker Quink Blue Black and see if there is any measurable improvement it water resistance.



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Posted 19 May 2014 - 21:08

Hi,

 

I haven't even speed dated Aristotle, but the dry nature of I-G inks can be overcome by adding the merest whisper of a surfactant used as a 'wetting agent' for processing of B&W film, such as Ilford Ilfotol or Kodak Photo-Flo. If you use ''Kodak' as a searchword in the Search tool, other relevant prior posts should be summoned.

 

Blending with a bit of wetter ink certainly can work, but a 'safe' blend is not a sure result; and some of the admirable properties of an I-G may be compromised. (But that didn't stop yours truly from giving it a whirl - you won't know until you find out.)

 

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Posted 20 May 2014 - 00:50

OS makes it's own flow enhancer, so that should be safe to use.  I've used it on some PR inks and it has radically improved the flow...but 'uh I used radically more than the recipe called for..start small then add.


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Posted 20 May 2014 - 01:29

I mixed Parker Blue Black with OS Aristotle roughly five to one in a fairly wet writing medium-nibbed Kaweco Sport and so far so good. Flow is nice, with a little shading. While not as permanent as straight Aristotle, it is more resistant than straight Quink Blue Black.

I will report back with how well or poorly it starts after sitting.

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Posted 20 May 2014 - 04:13

Hi,
 
I haven't even speed dated Aristolstle, but the dry nature of I-G inks can be overcome by adding the merest whisper of a surfactant used as a 'wetting agent' for processing of B&W film, such as Ilford Ilfotol or Kodak Photo-Flo. If you use ''Kodak' as a searchword in the Search tool, other relevant prior posts should be summoned.
 
Blending with a bit of wetter ink certainly can work, but a 'safe' blend is not a sure result; and some of the admirable properties of an I-G may be compromised. (But that didn't stop yours truly for giving it a whirl - you won't know until you find out.)
 
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What a fantastic idea. Found my bottle added 2 drops to ink refilled pen and it writes like a dream. Could not be happier. Thanks

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Posted 20 May 2014 - 11:32

OS makes it's own flow enhancer, so that should be safe to use.  I've used it on some PR inks and it has radically improved the flow...but 'uh I used radically more than the recipe called for..start small then add.

 

 

I haven't even speed dated Aristolstle, but the dry nature of I-G inks can be overcome by adding the merest whisper of a surfactant used as a 'wetting agent' for processing of B&W film, such as Ilford Ilfotol or Kodak Photo-Flo. If you use ''Kodak' as a searchword in the Search tool, other relevant prior posts should be summoned.

 

That's an interesting option - I wouldn't have even thought to look for such a thing.  I don't see a flow enhancer on Organic Studios web site, but it is listed at Pen Boutique so I'll give it a whirl.  Thanks!



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Posted 20 May 2014 - 12:29

What a fantastic idea. Found my bottle added 2 drops to ink refilled pen and it writes like a dream. Could not be happier. Thanks

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 04:10

I-G's can be dry ... appropriate that Diamine Registrar's Ink is shortened to DRI.

 

I would never mix I-G ink with non-I-G ink. 


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