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Hi all


Dropped a bit of a clanger with this EvilBay purchase, my fault, not the sellers so no complaints.


The Sheaffer Flat Top turned out to be quite a bit smaller than I was expecting, so small that I am having trouble trying to get an exact ID of the Model, can anyone help with a Model ID for me.


Capped its 11.6cm = 4 25/64"

Posted its 14.6cm = 5 17/32"

Pen is 9.8cm = 3 32/64"


In the photos below it can be seen next to my Sheaffer Balance Oversize


I thought it might have been a Junior but seems too small going on the sizes I have found for a Junior, did they make any thing smaller than a Junior?


Thanks for any help


Paul










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dont know what model but it looks really nice.
congrats.
enjoy it.

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Lovely pen. If it's too small for you, please contact me about trading it. I love them.

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I am beginning to think I NEED one of the big 'uns. I might have to go for a red one instead though.

 

I have a Gray striated smaller Balance with a hugh jass honkin' Stub but you can't argue the flat top isn't an Icon.

 

The Icon direction IS how I started all this.

 

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If I'm making out the point marking correctly, it's a 3-25SC.

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All it says on the nib is Sheaffer's 3-25 Made in USA

 

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Ernst is right - 3-25SC. With that clip it is a late model mid 1930's but, if it still has a 3-25 nib it is a little mismatched (which I think I've said recently). The 3-25 was a $3 pen with a 25 year guarantee introduced in 1928. 3-25 nibs were still used in low end balances until they were replaced in the early 30's with the 3 nib as the 25 year guarantee no longer applied. The 3-25 replaced the earlier 22 Student Special which was a model that spanned hard rubber and radite so is found in both materials. Flattop pens while no longer advertised or cataloged after 1930 were made even into wartime production as the old style still sold units and your example is proof that they weren't selling off parts as it has a clip several years after sales support for flattops ended.

 

3-25 is the lowest rung of the regular Sheaffer line with the Juniors being the bottom rung that carry the Sheaffer name. A Sheaffer junior must say that it is a "Junior" or it isn't one. As with most Sheaffer production the 3-25 was found in the full length 3-25 (roughly 5.25") the short length 3-25SC (roughly 4.5") and the 3-25SR (ringtop 4.5"). Color models exist as well in Jade so "J" precedes the 3-25 designation and undocumented Black and Pearl models which would have K precede the 3-25.

 

Roger W.

 

http://www.sheafferflattops.com/images/Jade3-25s.jpg

Jade 3-25's in all three configurations (J3-25C, J3-25SC and J3-25SR) - jade 3-25's were introduced in 1930.

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Hi

 

Would it be the wrong cap for the pen or the wrong nib.

 

At under 4 inches long would it be a Junior or the none PC Midget

 

Paul

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Paul;

 

The measurement is with the cap on so it is roughly 4.5" which is the 3-25SC. Again for Junior it would say "Junior". Midget doesn't apply as those refer to small metal only pens (at the same time period or earlier hard rubber pens). The one you are looking for is pigmy (Sheaffer spelling) but, those are royal blue or cherry red. By the time that cap is in use the "3" nib would have been production.

 

Roger W.

 

http://www.sheafferflattops.com/images/pigmy.jpg

A No. 1, metal pigmy, cherry red pigmy (all much smaller than the 3-25SC)

 

http://www.sheafferflattops.com/images/pigmy2.jpg

Royal blue pigmy, metal pigmy and No. 1 open

 

This should help -

http://www.sheafferflattops.com/images/Page01.jpg

1928 Page 1

The 3-25 SR is bigger as it is on the replacement frame for the R46SR and not the 22 Student Special as those never came in color so the translation made by Sheaffer creates an inconsistency. Closed they are only an 1/8th of an inch different.

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Is this a different pen from the one you already asked about and which Roger previously identified for you here?

 

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