Chinese Pens With Original Designs? (Excluding Twsbi)

[Tenkai]

Hi guys,

 

Was thinking of another new pen purchase.

 

Was wondering are there any cheapies that write well but doesn't look like clones of another brand?

 

I read on the forums that there are Hero/Duke pens that doesn't copy other designs but I couldn't isolate them to more than a general statement.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Azrael

[WirsPlm]

I think the Duke 600 (if I'm remembering the model number right) is pretty original, it's got the weirdest pen shape that I've ever seen at least, and if you check out the Jinhao Dragon pens those are definitely unique designs, I think the various porcelein pens are also a design not commonly found outside of Chinese companies. Luoshi cigarette pens aren't copied from anything (that I know of) either. Honestly, there are a lot of Chinese pens that aren't direct copies of other pens (along with ones that definitely are), but there's only so many variations on cylinder with a nib that can be made before we start getting similar results. One design that I haven't seen a lot of is slim pens like older lever fillers, the Chinese companies don't seem to like those kinds of designs for some reason.

Edited April 20, 2014 by WirsPlm

[KBeezie]

I don't know if you'd call it Original, but I can't off the time of my head recall any other brands that have something identical to this. As I recall "Uranus" is Duke's lower-end line of pens.

 

http://static.karlblessing.com/pens/intro/uranus_301_full.jpg

 

http://static.karlblessing.com/pens/intro/uranus_301.jpg

 

I don't currently use the pen (been thinking bout selling it).

Edited April 20, 2014 by KBeezie

[Tenkai]

I think the Duke 600 (if I'm remembering the model number right) is pretty original, it's got the weirdest pen shape that I've ever seen at least, and if you check out the Jinhao Dragon pens those are definitely unique designs, I think the various porcelein pens are also a design not commonly found outside of Chinese companies. Luoshi cigarette pens aren't copied from anything (that I know of) either. Honestly, there are a lot of Chinese pens that aren't direct copies of other pens (along with ones that definitely are), but there's only so many variations on cylinder with a nib that can be made before we start getting similar results. One design that I haven't seen a lot of is slim pens like older lever fillers, the Chinese companies don't seem to like those kinds of designs for some reason.

 

Interesting I'll look into them =D

 

Though those pens are kinda heavy D:

 

I don't know if you'd call it Original, but I can't off the time of my head recall any other brands that have something identical to this. As I recall "Uranus" is Duke's lower-end line of pens.

 

http://static.karlblessing.com/pens/intro/uranus_301_full.jpg

 

http://static.karlblessing.com/pens/intro/uranus_301.jpg

 

I don't currently use the pen (been thinking bout selling it).

 

That looks real suave =D It is heavy? What sizes do they have? (I notice chinese pens have either Western Fine or Med)

[KBeezie]

 

Interesting I'll look into them =D

 

Though those pens are kinda heavy D:

 

 

That looks real suave =D It is heavy? What sizes do they have? (I notice chinese pens have either Western Fine or Med)

 

Not heavy at all, it's metallic but it's not heavy (edit: not as heavy as a Jinhao X450, X750, 159, bout the same weight as a Kaigelu 363 if not a little less), slip on cap. Also that one writes like a western medium, rather smooth too, but it doesn't seem to take international standard (nipple too broad), comes with a squeeze filler, and I'm not sure what type of cartridge/converter it takes since it looks very similar to standard international, but the nipple is almost twice the thickness.

 

That one there is a KSF-301 (but apparently Uranus 1000 is the exact same pen, and the seller still hasn't updated the listing with the information I told him, since in his listing he does say it takes international standard).

 

Also the Chinese Standard of nib sizes varies, typically smaller hooded nibs go by Japanese standards, where as larger pens (ie: Jinhaos with #6 nibs) state more the Western Standard.

Edited April 20, 2014 by KBeezie

[KBeezie]

Here's a write sample I did back when I got it. (The Sheaffer Snorkel I have is rated as a 'medium')

Edited April 20, 2014 by KBeezie

[Tenkai]

Here's a write sample I did back when I got it. (The Sheaffer Snorkel I have is rated as a 'medium')

 

Darn, too big of a nib size again =(

 

I tend to use Japanese medium (Western fine I guess).

[KBeezie]

 

Darn, too big of a nib size again =(

 

I tend to use Japanese medium (Western fine I guess).

 

Yea it's a little apparent visually with that huge ball tipping you see on the front. I don't know of too many Japanese Medium/Fine made by China that's considered "original".

 

There is the WingSung 233 I have, but not sure that's really "original", it's a 'fine' nib by western standards.

 

Last line of the "Fine/Extra Fine" section.

 

 

http://static.karlblessing.com/pens/wingsung233/write.jpg

 

And a pic of the pen:

 

http://static.karlblessing.com/pens/wingsung233/1.jpg

 

They also come in Teal and Black, not a removable filler, rather it's a permanently set squeeze filler, but seems pretty easy to take apart. Just make sure you have some silicone gel nearby, since screwing the nib back onto the section might leak some ink around the base of the nib if you don't have the threads geled up. Other than that, goes back together just fine.

 

Gave my brother the Taupe one, Kept the Burgundy one (but I swapped the nib between them before I did).

Edited April 20, 2014 by KBeezie

[Tenkai]

You're amazing!

 

Will look at the Wing Sung 233 =D

 

Would be nice to collect a FP with an inlaid nib (and I just told myself not to buy another FP =x)

[KBeezie]

You're amazing!

 

Will look at the Wing Sung 233 =D

 

Would be nice to collect a FP with an inlaid nib (and I just told myself not to buy another FP =x)

 

Yea they're about 6$ a piece, I recommend getting 2 or 3 since like myself you might end up with one that has a nib spaced too far apart or something (you can probably adjust it, but...) Though they all have that amber ink window and other than straight black, only the burgundy and taupe seem to be attractive with the orange.

[Tenkai]

Where do you get them? D:

They are on eBay for $20 each!

 

EDIT: I found them!

Edited April 20, 2014 by Tenkai

[KBeezie]

Where do you get them? D:

 

They are on eBay for $20 each!

 

EDIT: I found them!

Trust you found this one? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=331171061964

[mknoblauch]

Hi guys,

 

Was thinking of another new pen purchase.

 

Was wondering are there any cheapies that write well but doesn't look like clones of another brand?

 

I read on the forums that there are Hero/Duke pens that doesn't copy other designs but I couldn't isolate them to more than a general statement.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Azrael

Take a look at the Baker 100. I paid $5 for mine, and after flushing thoroughly it wrote perfectly out of the box (I'd lost a pic, but I have yet to reach 30 posts).

[mknoblauch]

"Post" a pick.... Darn android autocorrect!

[mknoblauch]

Even better than a pic, here's a review by SBRE Brown. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9zek8poToho

[Tenkai]

@KBeezie: Found them already but thanks anyway

 

@mknoblauch: Will have a look

[KBeezie]

Take a look at the Baker 100. I paid $5 for mine, and after flushing thoroughly it wrote perfectly out of the box (I'd lost a pic, but I have yet to reach 30 posts).

 

 

"Post" a pick.... Darn android autocorrect!

 

 

Even better than a pic, here's a review by SBRE Brown. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9zek8poToho

 

Guessing you meant Baoer 100 then.

[Tenkai]

I was about the press "buy" and then I stumbled upon this :x

 

http://www.richardspens.com/?design=hooded_nibs

 

Guess, I'll just stick with my Hero 360 and try to sac it I guess >__<

[WirsPlm]

I was about the press "buy" and then I stumbled upon this :x

 

http://www.richardspens.com/?design=hooded_nibs

 

Guess, I'll just stick with my Hero 360 and try to sac it I guess >__<

 

What about that link makes you want to stick with the Hero 360 (not that the Hero 360 isn't an OK pen, but I'm just not seeing the relevance).

[Tenkai]

It may be me, but from that site, the Uranus maybe another clone as well?

 

I currently have only a Hero 360, which is leaking from the sac, since I haven't found an original design that's isn't real heavy (which puts me off using, which means it's a waste), just continue to save up and stick with what I have