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Sailor 1911L Realo Xf Not Available In Japan!?


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I've decided to buy a Sailor 1911 Realo. I would prefer to order one from Japan, but when I contacted the seller I was told:

 

EF nib is oversea model.
We can sell Sailor Japan model.
Unfortunately, we can not sell oversea model.
Thanks!

 

Please refer to the website of Sailor Japan.
Nib Selection;
細字(Fine nib):11-3924-220
中字(Medium nib):11-3924-420
太字(Broad nib):11-3924-620
It does appear that, according to the Sailor Japan website, only F, M, and B nibs are offered with the 1911 Realo. This hardly makes sense to me! Wouldn't the Japanese market move more XF's?
In case anyone was wondering, the sailor model number for the 1911L Realo XF is 11-3924-120.
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Well, then, buy a Sailor 1911 Realo from one of the US vendors, either from John Mottishaw or from Richard Binder and get the nib width of your choice. It hardly makes sense to buy a pen from a Japanese vendor when you are in the US.

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Well, then, buy a Sailor 1911 Realo from one of the US vendors, either from John Mottishaw or from Richard Binder and get the nib width of your choice. It hardly makes sense to buy a pen from a Japanese vendor when you are in the US.

 

It's $75 cheaper to buy it from Japan. Enough reasons to make sense to me! I'm also really confused as to why the XF nib isn't offered in Japan. Double ewe tea eff?

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It's $75 cheaper to buy it from Japan. Enough reasons to make sense to me! I'm also really confused as to why the XF nib isn't offered in Japan. Double ewe tea eff?

 

How is it cheaper there ... if they don't sell it there? Maybe it's just that seller? Or maybe they're (That particular seller) selling a F as an EF to overseas markets? (edit: the only two extra fines Realo I could find on ebay for example were black and red, for $327 out of New Jersey, with 21K gold nib)

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I think he means the pen in general is cheaper there.

 

I was also very dissapointed that the professional gear SIGMA does not come in extra fine.

I would BUY THAT IN A MICROSECOND

 

Its got the little acrylic bubble with the sailor logo inside it, Thats all i need, but it only goes up to fine. so there goes that.

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I would not completly blame the seller.

 

The problem is that these fountain pens just existed in F/M/B since the beginnig - the possibility of having other nibs (EF, Music, whatever) does not exist for too long. In fact I already wanted to state that they do not exist, but I checked the new HP of Sailor, so know even I know that they exist.

 

I would ask the seller diectly for the 11-3924-120 - let's see what he will answer...

There are no facts, there is no truth - just a data to be manipulated...

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Is there a possibility that they may advertise the Fine nib as both Fine and Extra Fine, depending on the market they are targeting?

No, they're different model #'s and different Kanji. They'd have to stamp them differently as well, which is an added expense I doubt they'd bear.

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No, they're different model #'s and different Kanji. They'd have to stamp them differently as well, which is an added expense I doubt they'd bear.

 

Hrm good point, was thinking if they did, and just didn't change the stamp, then it wouldn't' be the Mfr doing it but just a retailer advertising it differently (Basing it on western standards, etc)

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Hrm good point, was thinking if they did, and just didn't change the stamp, then it wouldn't' be the Mfr doing it but just a retailer advertising it differently (Basing it on western standards, etc)

That's possible. I bought a soft medium 3776 from Goulet and it arrived with a MF nib - I thought I got the wrong pen, but it turns out that's just how they decided to market it. I wasn't particularly happy about it.

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That's possible. I bought a soft medium 3776 from Goulet and it arrived with a MF nib - I thought I got the wrong pen, but it turns out that's just how they decided to market it. I wasn't particularly happy about it.

 

That's quite understandable if you are familiar with the brand and pens, you know exactly what you want when you order it.

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Well, I can confirm the 1911 Realo EF has "H-EF" stamped into the nib. However, it writes no finer than my Pilot 78g F. The Sailor nib also has some really interesting feedback - the closest analogue I can think of would be scratching nylon with a fingernail. A $325+ pen that writes no better than a $10 pen is not a keeper in my book. I'm now hugely skeptical of Sailor nib hype.

 

I would not completly blame the seller.

 

The problem is that these fountain pens just existed in F/M/B since the beginnig - the possibility of having other nibs (EF, Music, whatever) does not exist for too long. In fact I already wanted to state that they do not exist, but I checked the new HP of Sailor, so know even I know that they exist.

 

I would ask the seller diectly for the 11-3924-120 - let's see what he will answer...

 

I did ask the seller about Sailor's SKU and he confirmed it is not available in Japan.

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Though I do not know your seller - you never mentioned the name - I can not tell you to ask somebody else, it might be the same.

 

In general I would say: I order from min. 3 different sellers in Japan - I am sure that one of these would say "no problem".

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