Identifying A Sheaffer Triumph

[Manik]

Hi everybody! I've been a bit of a lurker on here for awhile but a recent pickup inspired me to create an account and ask the following questions.

 

I found the following Sheaffer pen and I've been struggling to identify it. It looks like some sort of Triumph but I can't really find a similar pen like it on the internet anywhere. On the nib there are marks that say "Sheaffers, -79-,Lifetime, Reg. U.S. Patent Off, Made in U.S.A.,14 K". There is a white dot on the tip of the cap rather than right above the clip.

 

My second question is how to get the plunger out to replace the washer that seems to be not there. The piece that resembles a cartridge seems to be one solid piece, with the exception of the block near the end where the rod sticks out. Do I need to gradually heat up that end and see if it'll come out, or is there another way?

 

Thanks!

 

 

 

 

[Guest Ray Cornett]

Looks to be a Lifetime piston filler in striated Carmine Red. I just received a Carmine Red striated Sheaffer Balance yesterday. If I recall this color was made between 1939 and nearly most of the 1940s.

[jar]

And the location of the white dot moved around a lot; on cap, on body, on top, on bottom.

 

But this is not a repair for anyone who asks how to do it. Instead send it off to Ron Zorn, Sherrell Tyree or Gerry Berg to get it rebuilt.

[Ernst Bitterman]

Statesman model, from the relatively restrained band, and I've always liked the Zeppelin-mooring placement for the dot.. Agree on the point of repair trickiness.

[VAgal]

Please listen to Jar and Ernst about the repair. Not every professional repair person will deal with these type of pens because the repair is so tricky. Jar has given you the name of three excellent repair people to repair your pen. These wire pens are wonderful pens. I have two, different models from yours, but they are great writers. I hope that you get yours repaired and have fun writing with it.

[Manik]

Statesman model, from the relatively restrained band, and I've always liked the Zeppelin-mooring placement for the dot.. Agree on the point of repair trickiness.

Thanks! That seems to be the closest to it.

 

As for the repair, I managed to remove the washer on the very end of the cartridge and could do anything to the packing unit I would need to. From the reading I've done the trickiest part seems to be getting the nib section out. I'd like to try the fix myself, but I would consider sending it to someone that has done these before. I'll read some more posts on removing this type of nib before making a decision. Sherrell seems to be only 45 minutes away if she's still in KC so I'll likely end up taking it to her for repair if I decide to.

Edited April 12, 2014 by Manik

[Manik]

I gave a good attempt at getting the nib section out and it refused to come out. I've decided I'm going to take it in to Sherrell.

 

Is this the correct website for contacting Sherrell? http://www.ink-pen.com/contact.php

 

I'll also probably send a message to Gerry Berg as well.

Edited April 13, 2014 by Manik

[gmberg]

It's a Triumph Statesman from about 1948 when Sheaffer began to use an internal capsule in their plunger-fillers. The migrating White Dot was a regular feature of the later plunger-fillers: tip of cap, just above clip, blind cap, no WD whatsoever.

 

If you want to spot a Statesman (or Valiant) made between 1945 and 1948 WITHOUT taking it apart, just look closely at the section. It will be striped just as the barrel is right up to the nib itself indicating that there is no internal capsule. If the section has no stripes (plain black, or black with a window), it has an internal capsule and was made in 1948 or later.