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Slime In Noodler's 54 Massachusetts?


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I hope this is not going to be a big hoo haa - so my ink develop some musky smell and there seems to be slime. This is new to me because i've used fp for 20+ years and have inks I don't use kept in the drawer and they never develop slimes.

 

I know what I am look at. The question is the slim caused by mold,bacterial or just that it is too concentrated.

 

I have worked with surfactants and the slime really looks like it - just too concentrated. I thought of moldy inks as patches of slime rather than a more viscous liquid.

 

 

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I can't tell from the photos. What I can say is that Noodler's bulletproof inks do need to be shaken. IME, however, they are never viscous when everything is OK. If the ink has only suffered evaporation, then it should be possible to restore it by adding water. And BTW, if it has partially evaporated, it may exhibit very long drying times on paper. I've been conducting experiments with Noodler's inks on latex sac fragments, and part of the experiment is letting sac fragments sit in a small quantity of ink that is allowed to dry up. A couple of months later, it's a thick, over-saturated liquid, not dry.

 

You can run it through a coffee filter if you like. If you have access to phenol, you can add it to the ink to see if that will clear it up. There was a thread by Sam Capote about doing this a few years ago in which he tested the efficacy of adding phenol to clear up an existing issue. He also explored the question of effective dosage, but I think for an average nose it probably works out to adding just enough to be able to smell it. I'd be very cautious about using the ink, though, and only use it in one pen that I could sanitize easily.

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Just to point out, the "slime" is in the middle of pictures; look at the point of nib and you will see a thin straight line. That's the "slime".

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I hope that this is limited to a small batch (sorry that you have an apparent case of SITB, BTW). I like 54th MA and don't want to have any problems.

Of course, I also worry about that with my Herbin inks....

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I haven't had any problems with mine at this point in time. Hope it stays that way.

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In fairness, what you are seeing that looks strange may not be slime. I've seen it in my discards or in the inks that I've allowed to evaporate. It is sort of gummy and it's often the agents that are used (like glycerin). Does it smell moldy? Nethertheless, If you have a mostly new bottle, I'd send it back to the company and ask for a new bottle.

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I don't really have a lot of experience with noodler's ink. But this is unusual. Anyways, goulet has already said they are willing to take it back and have a look. Hope it helps them to get make it better.

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Hmm seems that I have spoken too soon and Goulet tell me to dump the bottle and sent me a replacement.

 

I think I am just gonna sent it to goulet since they provide their address. If a little effort can help prevent this kind of problem on the customer's side - why not.

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You could put it on a slide and take a look under a microscope. Fungal elements are easy to id.

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