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#1 Morbus Curiositas

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Posted 06 April 2014 - 14:55

Pelikan’s Royal Battle

 

Battle of the Blue Kings

The old king vs. the new Royal

 

 

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Dear FPN friends,

 

Last week I saw two reviews of Pelikan Royal Blue coming by in the Ink review forum. An old one started in 2010 (the first link) and a recent one (the second link)

 

http://www.fountainp...001-royal-blue/

 

http://www.fountainp...001-royal-blue/

 

This gave me an Idea, since I have two bottles of Pelikan 4001 Royal Blue. An old bottle which is NINETEEN years old and a new one I recently obtained.

 

I thought it would be a nice idea to compare the two…

 

Please have a close look at the handwritten text since there is a Babylonian confusion of speech in the naming

 

The 4001 series is a cheaper line of Pelikan inks, but the quality isn’t “cheap” at all…

 It is simply a very good basic ink that has been there for decades. :)

 

The ink is fairly dry but still the flowing is well. Saturation is great. And there is some nice shading to it. Though a dry ink, as mentioned by others too, the drying time is fairly long for a normal Fountain Pen ink. This makes it perhaps not the best ink for left-hand writers. :wacko:

 

The old ink has matured very well just like a great wine does. As far as I can see it gained a lot of depth and finesse, expressed in darkness and shading. The old ink appears a bit darker to me. Both inks are beautiful the new one with freshness (like a good Beaujolais) :happyberet:  the old ink has a lot of charisma like a person like Sean Connery in older age. :notworthy1:

 

I think I not only build me a wine cellar (a long wished dream) but an ink cellar too!

 

Down here are the technical specs (as suggested by Ann Finley 2007)

 

points 1-5 1 =  :(  5=  :)

The old King

Fountain Pens: Online Best writer 0,8 Italic; Lamy Joy 1,5 Italic

Paper: Leonardo Ringbuch,,average quality school note book made in Austria

Drying time: test sheet points: 3

Flow:  0.8  points: 3 / 1,5 points: 4

Wetness: a bit dry points 3

Bleeding: almost absent  in both pens points: 5

Shading:  very nice points: 4

Feathering: 0.8 very little points: 5 / 1,5 little points 4

Waterproof: good points: 4

Package: simple bottle points: 2

Availabilty: Excellent  :)  points:  5

 

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The new Royal

Fountain Pens: Online Best writer 0,8 Italic; Lamy Joy 1,5 Italic

Paper: Leonardo Ringbuch,,average quality school note book made in Austria

Drying time: test sheet longer points: 2

Flow:  0.8  points: 3 / 1,5 points: 4

Wetness: a bit dry points 3

Lubrication: 0.8 nib smooth  points: 3.5/  1.5 nib smooth: 4

Bleeding:very little in both pens points: 5

Shading:  still nice points: 3

Feathering: 0.8 very little points: 5 / 1,5 little points 4

Waterproof: good points: 4

Package: simple bottle points: 2

Availabilty: Excellent  :D  points:  5

 

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Quality and overall verdict:

 

4001 is still a very nice ink. The quality  is like most German product: like their, cars i.e. Mercedes, their Fountain Pens i.e. PELIKAN, their inks i.e. De Atramentis ;) ,and Pelikan of course :D … SUPERB…. :wub: 

 

Since the ink even gets better over time must really built me my ink cellar…

The best is that an excellent  Pelikan or De Atramentis is much more affordable than a Romanée Conti or Chateau Margaux…. :puddle:

 

I conclude…

 

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Very nice, quality ink for only  E 3.90 a 25 ml. bottle. This is the best proof that a quality ink does not have to be expensive  :thumbup: 

 

Warmest Regards,

 

Peter Vlutters

 

p.s since this review is an ink comparison as well as an ink review, I have posted this review in both for a.

 

Peter

 

 

 

 

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#2 lapis

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Posted 06 April 2014 - 16:09

Nice comparison. Do you really have a 25-ml bottle? All 8 Pelikan inks (the 4001s in bottles -- i.e. not the pink which is only available in cartridges) come in 30-ml bottles. The Brilliant Schwarz and Königsblau also come in 50-ml bottles (the TG1 series).

 
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Posted 06 April 2014 - 17:01

Nice comparison. Do you really have a 25-ml bottle? All 8 Pelikan inks (the 4001s in bottles -- i.e. not the pink which is only available in cartridges) come in 30-ml bottles. The Brilliant Schwarz and Königsblau also come in 50-ml bottles (the TG1 series).
 
Mike

Hi Mike you are absolutely right...

It are both 30 ml bottles sorry for the mistake....

But positive is that the ink is even cheaper than...

Question you live in Berlin, do you speak German???

If so was I correct in the translation issue?

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Posted 09 April 2014 - 16:44

Great review / comparison!  I'm going to post up a response.  I've been day dreaming / California Dreaming about that ink cellar.


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Posted 09 April 2014 - 16:50

Really fascinating!

How did you keep a bottle of ink for 19 years and not have mold?

Was it sitting in it's box in a drawer for all that time?



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Posted 09 April 2014 - 17:25

Really fascinating!

How did you keep a bottle of ink for 19 years and not have mold?

Was it sitting in it's box in a drawer for all that time?

 

I have inks that have been sitting out on my desk for more than 2 decades ... well, okay, they have traveled with me and it's not the same desk. They have been exposed to indirect light during that time.  They are still wonderful.  The inks I kept in boxes are all fine too. The only inks that developed mold, had a problem from the inky factory or they were exposed to an infected ink/pen.  Mold is much less common than you would think from all these posts, but the number of infected bottles of inks over the years is just a drop in the inky bucket of how many bottles of inks are sold.  Don't worry about it.


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Posted 09 April 2014 - 17:29

Really fascinating!

How did you keep a bottle of ink for 19 years and not have mold?

Was it sitting in it's box in a drawer for all that time?

 

 

 

I have inks that have been sitting out on my desk for more than 2 decades ... well, okay, they have traveled with me and it's not the same desk. They have been exposed to indirect light during that time.  They are still wonderful.  The inks I kept in boxes are all fine too. The only inks that developed mold, had a problem from the inky factory or they were exposed to an infected ink/pen.  Mold is much less common than you would think from all these posts, but the number of infected bottles of inks over the years is just a drop in the inky bucket of how many bottles of inks are sold.  Don't worry about it.

 

Dear Silvire, Dear Amberlea,

 

I don't know how but er...

 

I guess ist is the same as with wine... 

 

Keep it stored in a dry and dark place..

 

Wouldn't wanna drink the ink though  :D

 

Cheers  :happyberet:

 

Peter



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Posted 10 April 2014 - 16:36

 

 

 

Dear Silvire, Dear Amberlea,

 

I don't know how but er...

 

I guess ist is the same as with wine... 

 

Keep it stored in a dry and dark place..

 

Wouldn't wanna drink the ink though  :D

 

Cheers  :happyberet:

 

Peter

 

 

Giggles ... Nope. 

 

I kept mine here:

 

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Currently they are here:

 

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 17:02

Holy Moly...

I have to be nice person in this life....

If i go tho heaven then I will probably end up in your Ink Paradise...

That is awesome... See that I am still a humble amateur :-)

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 19:33

Nope, I just don't have other expensive habits. No designer fashions or super pricey pens let alone the real money consumers in Vegas.  I don't go drinkin', whorin' or gamblin' - hence I dispose of my money in ink.  (BTW, Alcohol is cheaper).


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 02:06

(BTW, Alcohol is cheaper).

 

Only in the short run!

 

 

BTW, the color of the Pelikan 4001 seems to have changed over the years. The new formulation is more 'brilliant' than the old.


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Posted 14 April 2014 - 14:52

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Posted 14 April 2014 - 23:17

...

(BTW, Alcohol is cheaper).

 

Not always, a 1963 bottle of Grange Hermitage is $4/ml., compared to Noodler's 90ml bottle at $0.13/ml.

Even the cheapest Grange is $0.53/ml.

Mind you, it does taste better than Noodler's...



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Posted 15 April 2014 - 01:29

Good to know.


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