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After I use up my last two bottles of MB iron gall blue black, I'll have have a good cry and then have to find another water resistant ink for my MBs. I've enjoyed its color, its water resistant properties and the way it can make my line a bit thinner. What do you recommend?

 

The MB permanent inks are pretty new. How are they working?

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Try Diamine Registrars? Or else perhaps get on Pharmacist's waiting list.

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Definitely more of Blue than blue/black (certainly less greyed than MB MB), I like R&K Salix. It's very well behaved in the pen and on the page. In term of visual weight and subtlty, Scabiosa is closer kin to MB MB, even if the the hue is all wrong; still it's a lovely ink. These days, half my pens are inked in either Salix or Scabiosa

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My experience with permanent blue is not good at all. The colour is good with a lot of pigment, but maybe due to the pigment it has clogged both my 149 and heritage. Both were good fluent writers but now the inkflow has reduced. After many flushes and using the royal blue the performance improved (not what is used to be).

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"My experience with permanent blue is not good at all. The colour is good with a lot of pigment, but maybe due to the pigment it has clogged both my 149 and heritage. Both were good fluent writers but now the inkflow has reduced. After many flushes and using the royal blue the performance improved (not what is used to be)."

 

Thanks for the heads-up. I have had a similar experience. For now, I am using permanent blue exclusively in my cartridge converter pens.

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The best replacement I've found for the discontinued montblanc midnight blue is ESSRI

Is essri an acronymn?

Do you feel it has similar flow properties, and is it iron gall?

 

I like the fact that Iron gall ink is ancient. :-)

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Look what I have found in the package of my bottle midnight blue.

 

It says it is permanent with ferro-gallic content)

 

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I am jealously hoarding what is left of both Midnight Blue and Blue Black. I only use them sparingly. Both are very good inks. I have also been looking for a replacement and will have to check out some of the suggestions made on this thread. Thanks for the suggestions.

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Is essri an acronymn?

Do you feel it has similar flow properties, and is it iron gall?

 

I like the fact that Iron gall ink is ancient. :-)

yes it has very similar properties, the color, the flow properties, the shading, the tight lines, good behavior or poor paper, etc. Its definitely iron gall, plus it is very inexpensive too - 10.50 british pounds sterling for 110 ml, thats with shipping to the US. Overall less than half the price that MB midnight blue was. Like you I was feeling bad after the last of my MB iron gall midnite blue ran out, but this ESSRI (ecclesiastical stationary supplies registrars ink) is some good stuff. Sandy1 has a nice review of it as well as a comparison to MB midnite blue. The only downside, and its minor, is that the ink comes in a cheap plastic bottle. But if you've saved your old monblanc glass bottles, then you can put the ESSRI in them. Good luck!

 

edit to add, no one sells it in the US, but the vendors in the UK are very nice and the package will get to you in decent amount of time, the website as mentioned above is:

http://www.registrarsink.co.uk/registrars_ink.html

 

no affiliation, just a happy customer.

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After I use up my last two bottles of MB iron gall blue black, I'll have have a good cry and then have to find another water resistant ink for my MBs. I've enjoyed its color, its water resistant properties and the way it can make my line a bit thinner. What do you recommend?

 

The MB permanent inks are pretty new. How are they working?

I share your search for a MB Midnight Blue replacement. Up to now I have used the following:

 

1. R&K Salix (IG ink bluer than MB)

2. Pilot Blue Black (also bluer, but not IG)

3. Pelikan 4001 blue black (very nice in my Pelikans, but not IG)

4. "MB Twilight" (a homemade mix of MB Royal Blue and the new MB permanent black, 10:1) This provides a nice blue black that is remarkably water resistant:

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I haven't tried ESSRI or Diamine IG Blue Black, so I can't comment on them.

 

OS Aristotle is another IG blue black but I find it too watery and greenish. Reminds me of the old Skrip BB.

The new MB permanent black is a very nice and lubricated ink although I find it too expensive.

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Carlos, Thank you for sharing your experience and the recipe!

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Akkerman #10 is a favourite ink of mine.

In this IG ink there is a nice shift of a true blue turning into a blue/black, but not an "almost" black as some other IG inks.

Vanness in AK is waiting to ship me a small bottle as soon as our weather changes up here.

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yes it has very similar properties, the color, the flow properties, the shading, the tight lines, good behavior or poor paper, etc. Its definitely iron gall, plus it is very inexpensive too - 10.50 british pounds sterling for 110 ml, thats with shipping to the US. Overall less than half the price that MB midnight blue was. Like you I was feeling bad after the last of my MB iron gall midnite blue ran out, but this ESSRI (ecclesiastical stationary supplies registrars ink) is some good stuff. Sandy1 has a nice review of it as well as a comparison to MB midnite blue. The only downside, and its minor, is that the ink comes in a cheap plastic bottle. But if you've saved your old monblanc glass bottles, then you can put the ESSRI in them. Good luck!

 

edit to add, no one sells it in the US, but the vendors in the UK are very nice and the package will get to you in decent amount of time, the website as mentioned above is:

http://www.registrarsink.co.uk/registrars_ink.html

 

no affiliation, just a happy customer.

Thanks for all that information! I suppose they are trustworthy given they deal in the ecclesiastical. :)

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