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#1 umenohana

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 18:50

When the ink first made contact with the paper, I thought: "It is green!" It seems like something Sonia_Simone would like.

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 18:52

It shades pretty decently, but it's not as dramatic as Café des Îles since Lie de Thé is darker.

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 18:54

Thé looks green when compared with Café, but brown when compared with Army Green and Alt-Goldgrün.

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 18:57

Here's how the coffee and tea ink shadings compare. (written with dip pen; keep in mind both colors are lighter when written with FP) Tea seems to feather a little bit, but I'm sure it wouldn't do that with a FP.

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 19:27

Very nice review! As always. happy.gif
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Posted 25 February 2007 - 19:57

QUOTE (HyperCamper @ Feb 25 2007, 01:27 PM)
Very nice review! As always. happy.gif

Yes, thank you so much for these.

I don't know which I like better, the reviews or the handwriting. Both are gorgeous! smile.gif
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Posted 25 February 2007 - 21:49

Thanks for the review.

I just got a bottle of the "Lie de The" to try. Frankly, I just don't know what to think. When it is fresh on paper, it frankly looks like something I might dig out of the cat's litter box. That green-brown color ... blink.gif My efforts have dried on paper to an odd grey color that looks initially like a vintage ink. But when I write a whole paragraph with it, the ink just looks putrid.

I will try this ink some more to give it another chance, but I think I will stick with the "Cafe des Iles" for it more pleasant brown color. I have not had any feathering issues with the Cafe des Iles. The Cafe des Iles also dries with a lovely frame or border around each ink stroke - if I am explaining this quality of the ink at all well! - that presents on paper beautifully. It is here that I regret I have not yet gotten up to speed with digital photography.

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 23:21

I had such high hopes for this ink, based on swatches I'd seen online, as well as the name (I love tea!) But when my sample arrived from Pear Tree Pens, I have to agree, I was disappointed by how green it was! At first I thought that my pen hadn't been flushed properly, but I tried dipping a few others and they all came out a light greenish brown... I was hoping for more of a reddish brown, the colour of an actual cup of black tea! The colour itself isn't horrible, but it wasn't what I wanted sad.gif Interestingly though, when I was rinsing out the pen later, the rinse water was exactly the colour that I wanted, as if my rinse cup was filled with tea...
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Posted 25 February 2007 - 23:40

Thank you all for the comments. biggrin.gif

I just wrote on a postcard to my penpal, and look how weird the ink looks on it:

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 01:54

You are right, hana, I do like Lie de Thé! I have my favorite mix of FPN Galileo with Walnut loaded at the moment, and I can't quite justify having two pens with brown ink, but as soon as that pen runs out I think I will put some Lie de Thé in my Pelikan White Tortoise. (My favorite Golden Brown ink has turned on me, and I haven't yet had a chance to replace it.)
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Posted 26 February 2007 - 02:08

QUOTE (sonia_simone @ Feb 25 2007, 05:54 PM)
You are right, hana, I do like Lie de Thé! I have my favorite mix of FPN Galileo with Walnut loaded at the moment, and I can't quite justify having two pens with brown ink, but as soon as that pen runs out I think I will put some Lie de Thé in my Pelikan White Tortoise. (My favorite Golden Brown ink has turned on me, and I haven't yet had a chance to replace it.)

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--The diaper part was esp. memorable. LOL roflmho.gif

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 02:08

I mentioned this in an earlier thread on Herbin inks, but I think the correlation between online color swatches and actual ink colors is the worst for Herbin products. Lie de The looked great to me on the screen, but I have to agree that on paper it brought to mind various waste products....

Which is too bad, because as Hana's beautiful examples show, Herbin inks have a wonderful watercolor shading.

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 02:08

QUOTE (umenohana @ Feb 25 2007, 03:40 PM)
Thank you all for the comments. biggrin.gif

I just wrote on a postcard to my penpal, and look how weird the ink looks on it:

I think that looks gorgeous. I'd be very happy with those results and always enjoy an ink that shows outlines.

I bought a bottle of Lie de Thé over a year ago but the color leans slight more towards red rather than green. I wonder if Herbin has changed the formula?
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Posted 26 February 2007 - 02:11

QUOTE (umenohana @ Feb 25 2007, 11:40 PM)
Thank you all for the comments.  biggrin.gif

I just wrote on a postcard to my penpal, and look how weird the ink looks on it:

That looks strange. How come theere is a "border" our "outline" that has been created?

Very informative review, by the way. smile.gif

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 03:13

Lovely writing! Lie de The is also one of my favorites. Any chance you have a photo of the nib you used to write that with?

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 03:16

QUOTE (Jared @ Feb 25 2007, 07:13 PM)
Lovely writing! Lie de The is also one of my favorites. Any chance you have a photo of the nib you used to write that with?

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Here you go. Thank you. biggrin.gif

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 04:45

Thanks, that's wonderful! If only I could write like that...

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 05:31

Hana that is hilarious! I forgot I'd said that.
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Posted 26 February 2007 - 18:20

Scan of the ink seems quite true to the colour that comes out of my pens. I like this brown after writing with it for awhile. My first impression is that it was a bit washed out, but I was mainly using black and blues.
It has character, for sure.

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 22:45

hmm... actually, it has a similar kind of quality to Noodlers Lawrence, although much less saturated...

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 14:59

Wow, I think Lie de Thé is one of the loveliest old fashioned inks that I have seen.

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Posted 08 March 2007 - 15:31

I just got a bottle of this ink too, and after just jotting a bit with it I am decidedly on the fence. It goes on a nice, slightly greenish, brown. It dries to a, well, dry-looking green. It reminds me of the color of the dried grass clippings that accumulate inside a lawn mower or weed-eater. It's greener than I expected based on the pictures I've seen, but it appears that I am not alone in that perception. I guess I'll just have to use it for a while and see if it grows on me or if I need to get rid of it.

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Posted 21 July 2009 - 16:42

I bought a bottle of this ink based on this wonderful review. Thanks!

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Posted 21 July 2009 - 18:56

This review makes me sad that no one local seems to carry J. Herbin anymore.
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Posted 21 July 2009 - 19:13

QUOTE (Silvermink @ Jul 21 2009, 08:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This review makes me sad that no one local seems to carry J. Herbin anymore.


Silvermink, a fellow member, Caligula, sells Herbin in the States, maybe he will ship to you. Ont he other hand, you can order from France from www.pendandco.com and they will ship worldwide very reasonably.

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Posted 21 July 2009 - 20:05

QUOTE (Ondina @ Jul 21 2009, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Silvermink, a fellow member, Caligula, sells Herbin in the States, maybe he will ship to you. Ont he other hand, you can order from France from www.pendandco.com and they will ship worldwide very reasonably.


Might check those out. Never really been a fan of ordering ink online when there's so much available locally, though - the shipping always seems to be such a big chunk when it's something relatively-inexpensive to begin with, unless I order a whole ton of ink.
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Posted 21 July 2009 - 20:43

Hana,
Your handwriting reveals that you've both refined your writing skills beyond the vast majority of us here in the peanut gallery and you've identified a very effective writing instrument to demonstrate your skills. VERY impressive. I'm still back in the pack trying to figure out how to get a little variation in my lines. I do wish I could write with the beauty of your hand. Maybe someday...

On the ink... I use and like Lie de The. It seems to be a soft brown but there are times when soft brown just fits the bill. When I write with it, it also shades nicely. I will be trying out some other browns as i prefer brown to any other ink color for social writing. (Black or blue are my standards for business items.)

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Posted 21 July 2009 - 20:48

QUOTE (Silvermink @ Jul 21 2009, 01:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Ondina @ Jul 21 2009, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Silvermink, a fellow member, Caligula, sells Herbin in the States, maybe he will ship to you. Ont he other hand, you can order from France from www.pendandco.com and they will ship worldwide very reasonably.


Might check those out. Never really been a fan of ordering ink online when there's so much available locally, though - the shipping always seems to be such a big chunk when it's something relatively-inexpensive to begin with, unless I order a whole ton of ink.



Silvermink, if you lived in California you would buy on the Internet whenever possible because sales taxes have gotten so high that they usually exceed shipping costs. I think the San Francisco Bay Area is up to 9.75%! But that brings me to suggest a way to reduce the cost of shipping. Most times, when I buy a pen or accessory via the Internet, I also look through that vendor's ink offerings. Almost 1/2 of the time I end up adding several bottles of ink to the order and that has (so far) made it possible to purchase tax free and shipping free ink.

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Posted 22 July 2009 - 04:01

Beautiful writing, and a nice review.

Lie de The is my favorite brown. It's not red like most, and not super brown. Looks like a Chinese or Japanese tea colour, or leaves before they are immersed in hot water.

I'd be happy to take bottles off the hands of those that don't like it!

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Posted 22 July 2009 - 05:48

QUOTE (PatientType @ Jul 21 2009, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Silvermink @ Jul 21 2009, 01:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Ondina @ Jul 21 2009, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Silvermink, a fellow member, Caligula, sells Herbin in the States, maybe he will ship to you. Ont he other hand, you can order from France from www.pendandco.com and they will ship worldwide very reasonably.


Might check those out. Never really been a fan of ordering ink online when there's so much available locally, though - the shipping always seems to be such a big chunk when it's something relatively-inexpensive to begin with, unless I order a whole ton of ink.



Silvermink, if you lived in California you would buy on the Internet whenever possible because sales taxes have gotten so high that they usually exceed shipping costs. I think the San Francisco Bay Area is up to 9.75%! But that brings me to suggest a way to reduce the cost of shipping. Most times, when I buy a pen or accessory via the Internet, I also look through that vendor's ink offerings. Almost 1/2 of the time I end up adding several bottles of ink to the order and that has (so far) made it possible to purchase tax free and shipping free ink.



There are a couple of cities in the LA basin that around above 10.5% ....ouch

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