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Good Evening FPN!

 

Recently Ive been reading some articles at other sites.

 

is it looked down upon if one uses a NOS undipped/uninked burgundy parker 51 windowpane as a daily writer?

 

I'd imagine the value would drop drastically but personal achievement and enjoyment would escalate?

 

I don't know how to think of this. Its like having a rare baseball card and then using it as a coffee coaster (maybe not that extreme)

 

what do you guys think/comment.

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Well, I liken it to drinking Pappy Van Winkle Bourbon if you are lucky enough to get it. And I drink every bit I can lay my hands on. There are people who just collect the full bottles. I am not one. If you like the pen and wish to write with, have a blast!

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You buy it, it is yours to use it as you want to.

You will not get one answer because people are in both camps, including me.

- Collectors want to keep it "unused."

- Users want to enjoy using what they paid for.

 

Personally, I split the difference and go both ways. I would get 2 pens. #1 the pen you want for collection, and #2 a lesser quality pen as my writer. By lesser quality, I mean the same or similar pen, but one that is already used, but in good condition. Then clean it up so it looks good. That keeps the "unused" stuff still unused and in my collection and I get to use a similar pen without fear of damaging an expensive pen.

 

BTW, does NOS also mean complete with packaging, or just the bare pen?

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When I fill an old NOS pen and use it as a daily writer, I feel like breaking the door of a bird jail... A pen loves the paper... As the bird loves the sky...

Look at my horse, my horse is amazing!!!

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Some might look down at someone doing that,but who

cares? It's your pen.

 

 

 

John

Irony is not lost on INFJ's--in fact,they revel in it.

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I have a rare NOS Canadian Duofold and I personally will never use it. I think it is wiser to buy a mint condition Parker 51 to use verses a NOS one.

Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

 

—Oscar Wilde

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thats true and yes it was compelte with pencil and box, although the box had better days dust and fray around edges but anyways, buying the collectable then having another idential used one would make sense

 

My father collects vintage fender telecasters and stratocasters. esp autographed by leo fender and/or george fullerton himself he never plays them Instead, he buys the same color, model and appox year range to trash amp

'The Yo-Yo maneuver is very difficult to explain. It was first perfected by the well-known Chinese fighter pilot Yo-Yo Noritake. He also found it difficult to explain, being quite devoid of English.

So we left it at that. He showed us the maneuver after a sort. B*****d stole my kill.'

-Squadron Leader K. G. Holland, RAF. WWII China.

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BTW, does NOS also mean complete with packaging, or just the bare pen?

I don't think an item needs the be accompanied by the original packaging to be considered NOS, it just has to be an item that was never used or sold at retail.

Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

 

—Oscar Wilde

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It depends on how you acquired it. If you bought it as a NOS piece and paid full collector price, it would be imprudent to intentionally lose value. If you purchased it at mint, used price or less, then by all means, use your pen.

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I think we are getting confused, at least I am.

- NOS (New Old Stock) is new and unused as it implies

- MINT as how I understand the term is similar but step it up a notch, it is unused and in the condition as the item came out of the factory/plant. Some might say that MINT includes original packaging in similar condition. Once it is used, it is no longer MINT. It might be VERY EXCELLENT, but it is used therefore not mint.

 

If there is a different scale that puts NOS above mint, then what is mint?

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I think NOS is held as a higher premium than mint. Mint is often a guess that it probably wasn't ever used but NOS means it wasn't even ever sold at a retail outlet.

 

If someone wants a nice pen to write with I'd prefer that they get a nice one and use it with love rather than get a classic pen that has never been used and turn it into just another nice pen. I know it is an extreme exaggeration but someone who says "it's your pen do with it as you please" strikes me as someone who would poke holes in the Mona Lisa if it were theirs and they felt like doing that.

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Will be to arrive where we started

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I think we are getting confused, at least I am.

- NOS (New Old Stock) is new and unused as it implies

- MINT as how I understand the term is similar but step it up a notch, it is unused and in the condition as the item came out of the factory/plant. Some might say that MINT includes original packaging in similar condition. Once it is used, it is no longer MINT. It might be VERY EXCELLENT, but it is used therefore not mint.

 

If there is a different scale that puts NOS above mint, then what is mint?

I always thought mint condition described an item that has been used although has very slight signs of wear.

Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

 

—Oscar Wilde

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this will always be your call. i can't possibly use (or need to use) all the pens that i collect, so i use what i need or want to use, and save others in mint or NOS condition or just for the collection (although i'd likely have user-grade duplicates for these).

 

if, like most people, you buy pens basically to use them, then by all means use it. if you've gone over into serious collecting, then other factors will come into play--but in the end, it'll be your pen to use or not.

 

it'll take just one asteroid hit to obliterate all these fine pens (and us) anyway, so enjoy the pens whichever way you want (some of them i enjoy just by holding and looking at them--strange, but why not?)

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It was me, and it you own it, you CAN do as you please.

However, for certain things there are other considerations that affect your decision to "do as you please."

You may have the millions of dollars to buy the Mona Lisa, and if you wanted to, you could destroy it, it is yours.

However, you are also the interim caretaker of a unique piece of art that is "priceless." So social responsibility and other factors affects your decision to "do as you please."

But in the end, it is still yours to do as you please.

 

Pens are no different than most other collections.

Example, some people buy model trains to RUN.

Collectors will buy them and will NOT open/break the shrink wrap.

Me, I'm a runner, I buy trains to run, I don't buy them to hold and hope they go up in value. For that reason, I also rarely buy the older "valuable" stuff. The ones that I do, are put into my collection, and NOT run...yet.

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The Mona Lisa was a figurative analogy, not a literal one.

And the end of all our exploring

Will be to arrive where we started

And know the place for the first time. TS Eliot

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