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#1 hari317

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 11:14

A very kind person and friend in Chennai, India sourced this pen for me.

 

The P381 aka the "New Classic" was apparently produced between 1992 to 1995 as per this source. link

 

I had heard from some friends that the pens were being sold for really cheap in markets like Singapore. Anyway I came to know that recently the pens had started to become available in Chennai as well, so I requested my friend to enquire which he did. I got the pens for a really good price from the Chennai market, almost too good for a gold nib pen, IMO. The only issue was that only one color, the Vintara-green was available, that too in Broad. Now broad is a nib size that I prefer so I said OK.  

 

The pens arrived yesterday. I inked one up today and here is the review:

 

The pens are made of brass with a lacquer coating and gold plated trim. All the Pelikan elements are present, Pelikan logo on cap top, beak clip, and the trim at the ends... It is a slim pen, nearly 5 1/2 inches capped, slightly more than 6 inches with cap posted and nearly 8mm at the ribbed gripping section.

 

The pen employs the Pelikan C/C system, one converter was included.

 

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The nib:

 

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The pen's ends :)

 

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Nib width sticker:

 

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Ergonomics:

 

Due to my grip, any pen and any size is comfortable for me. This is a slim pen but comparatively heavy at 26gms capped and 18gms without cap. Due to the length I like to use it unposted.

 

First inking:

 

I put in Pelikan Turquoise first, the flow was good initially but it tapered and became sad. I found that the feeder was not conducting properly. Had to remove everything, clean and refit, I then used Waterman's Green after the refit and everything seems to be ok now. Ink still tends to stick to the converter walls maybe it will take some more exposure to the ink to stop this tendency. :) hopefully.

 

The nib disassembled:

 

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It is a tiny 23mm nib, made of very thin sheet of gold.

 

Some writing samples:

 

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Line variation:

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I hope people considering purchase will find this useful.

 

Cheers!

Hari

 

 

 

 



#2 Brian C

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 14:15

I have almost purchased this pen on several occasions but have not done so yet. Would you recommend purchase?



#3 hari317

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 15:25

I have almost purchased this pen on several occasions but have not done so yet. Would you recommend purchase?

certainly yes IMO, the price is unbeatable for the 14C nib and even if you get a lemon, it can be tweaked to work well.



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Posted 15 September 2013 - 15:53

How much did it cost you?



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Posted 15 September 2013 - 16:53

I have a silver clad version. It skips skips bit on initial down stroke but it is a favorite pen. VERY smooth and very wet.

#6 hari317

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 17:06

I have a silver clad version. It skips skips bit on initial down stroke but it is a favorite pen. VERY smooth and very wet.

True, the nib is excessively smooth. :) Congrats on the silver clad one, looks really superb!



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Posted 18 September 2013 - 12:07

Hari...that is a very tempting handsome looking pen, I must say...I like the colour too...and the best part is the nib...I like looking at my Pelikan M800 nib and this nib is a looker too...I also like the small things like the Pelikan logo and the nib width display at either ends...good only...enjoy...and may your tribe of FP scouts across the world increase...

 

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#8 hari317

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Posted 18 September 2013 - 12:10

Thanks Jai.

...and may your tribe of FP scouts across the world increase...

 

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Posted 18 September 2013 - 12:34

Nice looking pen Hari.  Is this broad nib comparable to the newer generation of B nibs offered by Pelikan?  To me, It doesn't seem to have much of an iridium blob.



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Posted 18 September 2013 - 12:39

Nice looking pen Hari.  Is this broad nib comparable to the newer generation of B nibs offered by Pelikan?  To me, It doesn't seem to have much of an iridium blob.

The tipping shape reminds me of the PF marked era M800 B nib that I have.

 

The nibs have a bit of baby's bottom, will need correction unfortunately.



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Posted 18 September 2013 - 12:47

The tipping shape reminds me of the PF marked era M800 B nib that I have.

 

The nibs have a bit of baby's bottom, will need correction unfortunately.

 

thanks Hari.  It does look like it offers some nice line variation. 

 

Those baby bottoms are irritating.  Are you corrrecting those yourself? 



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Posted 18 September 2013 - 12:50

 

Those baby bottoms are irritating.  Are you corrrecting those yourself? 

Hi, No. I have just put the pens aside for the moment, maybe Oxonian...



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Posted 18 September 2013 - 17:58

Royal pens Delhi had some old stocks of this model in three colors some months back. I'm not sure now. At that time, they were offering it for INR 2500.


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Posted 19 September 2013 - 19:13

In Kovai its 3000. At gem pen 3500.(2-3 months back)

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 13:29

looks pretty nice :thumbup:


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Posted 23 September 2013 - 14:19

I have 1 in brown. There are a lot of these selling in Singapore for S$39.90 which is ~$31.

 

I didn't know the feed is removable, so it's friction fix just pull it out? Yes, it's a very wet pen and I also realize when write the first stroke usually do not start immediately but write the same stroke again will get it started. After that, no skipping or anything and will keep writing.


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Posted 23 September 2013 - 14:20

Pelikan M205 is selling ~$79, is that a good buy?



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Posted 23 September 2013 - 14:33

I have 1 in brown. There are a lot of these selling in Singapore for S$39.90 which is ~$31.

 

I didn't know the feed is removable, so it's friction fix just pull it out? Yes, it's a very wet pen and I also realize when write the first stroke usually do not start immediately but write the same stroke again will get it started. After that, no skipping or anything and will keep writing.

yeah, I know the prices in Singapore are mind blowing, the older style M400s were similarly priced.

 

Yes the nib and feed will pull out. it is very tight, do not attempt if you have not developed the feel for these things yet.



#19 hari317

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 14:34

Pelikan M205 is selling ~$79, is that a good buy?

No idea about these pens.



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Posted 25 September 2013 - 07:01

Dear woelse,
I think thats a good buy. I bought mine for 5500rs which is equilant to 100$.

#21 hari317

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 07:17

I think thats a good buy. I bought mine for 5500rs which is equilant to 100$.

 

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 07:36

I have two of these pens - green and silver. They have not been used much as I find both of them to be unreliable. They are hard starters and skip a lot.

 

Hari - how did you remove the nib? Is it a push fit or screw, as I have not been able to remove mine.


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#23 hari317

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 07:38

Hari - how did you remove the nib? Is it a push fit or screw, as I have not been able to remove mine.

 

 

Yes the nib and feed will pull out. it is very tight, do not attempt if you have not developed the feel for these things yet.



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Posted 25 September 2013 - 16:58

Sleek and slim ..

 

Congrats Hari  ..

 

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Posted 26 September 2013 - 02:30

I have two of these pens - green and silver. They have not been used much as I find both of them to be unreliable. They are hard starters and skip a lot.

 

Hari - how did you remove the nib? Is it a push fit or screw, as I have not been able to remove mine.

 

Mine doesn't skip but it will usually start on second stroke but after that no issue skipping. I read about other review and youtube, it says it is common on this model. I was thinking about removing the nib and refit it to see if there is a different but since I don't really use much (I use fine point nib) I did not try it.

 



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Posted 26 September 2013 - 11:07

Sleek and slim ..

 

Congrats Hari  ..

 

BAAZ

thanks! is this pen available in the Punya-nagari as well?



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Posted 28 May 2014 - 01:28

Mine has a crack in the section, where the barrel screw on..Any idea where I can get a replace for this part?

Thanks in advance...

René

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Posted 29 May 2014 - 05:14

I have bought some of these pens from Printhardcopy, and he is on this board. He also sells through ebay. He might be a good person to contact. No affiliation, but a satisfied customer. I have not bought anything from him in a long time, but here is his recent ebay weblink: http://www.ebay.com/...hardcopy/m.html . I hope you can find what you need.

 

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Posted 29 May 2014 - 05:47

Tumbleweedtoo thank you so much!!!!!!!

Regards,

René.







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