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New Bulk Filler Demonstrator "evaluation" Prototype


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Hi all!
Below 2 pictures of a "test" demonstrator bulk filler prototype I just finished.
I don' expect CONID will produce ​​this version as such, too much time consuming hand work !
I''ve milled 8 length wise grooves in the body , 1.8 mm wide and 0.8 mm deep.
The grooves are filled with liquid celluloid 5 applications, aiming to avoid enclosure of air bubbles.
The acetone needs to be evaporated before the next layer can be applied, so it takes 'about 7 hours between each layer.
And even doing so i still experienced small air bubbles enclosures ....
It seems that I need probably 10 applications and/ or using a less viscous solution .....
The adhesion of the celluloid is perfect, and this is already a good point!
Visually I think using 9 grooves with a width of 1.5 mm will be better.
In doing so the grooves are not at 180 °, and does not see the opposite groove when looking trough the barrel
Reducing the inlay width to 1.5 mm will make the pen looking longer and more elegant I think....?
Finally I would like to find standard "strips" of celluloid (or another hard black plastic?) With a width of 1.5 mm and 1 mm thick to gleu in the grooves and then turning the excessive material off on the lathe.
Any suggestions in finding such standard hard black "strips" ??
Thank in advance for your suggestions and comments!
Regards, Francis
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hi Francis

 

I can't advise you on the celluloid, but ... what a stunning pen! I think it is beautiful, the stripes gives it a slender look. Absolutely gorgeous.

 

If is for sale I'm very interested. :D :D :D

 

Rob

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Looks great Francis. How does this influence structural integrity?

 

Being a-technical I can't help you on the technical aspects.

 

D.ick

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I believe there's a Chinese company that makes mother of pearl of celluloid, and that it's available in sheets. If one were to cut 1.5mm strips off the sheet and glue the strips into a pen, the end result would look a lot raden.

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I believe there's a Chinese company that makes mother of pearl of celluloid, and that it's available in sheets. If one were to cut 1.5mm strips off the sheet and glue the strips into a pen, the end result would look a lot raden.

Thanks raging.dragon!

Any idea of a web site or E mail address were I can obtain these sheets?

Francis

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If you're just looking for something to experiment with, here is an Ebay listing.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Celluloid-Sheet-For-Making-Guitar-Picks-Plain-Black-Listing-1-Lot-Q-A-/300897222687?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item460edf401f

Fairly reasonable price, questionable quality (just judging from the description).

Otherwise here is a site from a quick Google check.

http://www.celluloid.com.cn/

Found several other places via Google. Most selling to luthiers. Those that aren't looked like they had significant minimum quantities (150kg for example), maybe not so handy for prototype work.

Hope it helps.

JS

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If you're just looking for something to experiment with, here is an Ebay listing.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Celluloid-Sheet-For-Making-Guitar-Picks-Plain-Black-Listing-1-Lot-Q-A-/300897222687?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item460edf401f

Fairly reasonable price, questionable quality (just judging from the description).

Otherwise here is a site from a quick Google check.

http://www.celluloid.com.cn/

Found several other places via Google. Most selling to luthiers. Those that aren't looked like they had significant minimum quantities (150kg for example), maybe not so handy for prototype work.

Hope it helps.

JS

 

 

If you're just looking for something to experiment with, here is an Ebay listing.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Celluloid-Sheet-For-Making-Guitar-Picks-Plain-Black-Listing-1-Lot-Q-A-/300897222687?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item460edf401f

Fairly reasonable price, questionable quality (just judging from the description).

Otherwise here is a site from a quick Google check.

http://www.celluloid.com.cn/

Found several other places via Google. Most selling to luthiers. Those that aren't looked like they had significant minimum quantities (150kg for example), maybe not so handy for prototype work.

Hope it helps.

JS

 

 

 

Thanks a lot John, much appreciated !!!

Francis

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Looks great Francis. How does this influence structural integrity?

 

Being a-technical I can't help you on the technical aspects.

 

Hi D.ick,

Sorry i've forgot to answer your question...

Structural integrity is surely not at stake, solid as a rock !

Francis

 

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Really nice! it reminds me of the window in the MB149, but this one is actually functional! can hardly see in the 149.

Ahhh I wonder if you could make the cut-out windows in the shape of the art deco pattern on the Chrysler building in NYC?

http://www.jamesmaherphotography.com/articles/28-chrysler-building

you can never get it wrong, because you can never get it done!

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Really nice! it reminds me of the window in the MB149, but this one is actually functional! can hardly see in the 149.

Ahhh I wonder if you could make the cut-out windows in the shape of the art deco pattern on the Chrysler building in NYC?

http://www.jamesmaherphotography.com/articles/28-chrysler-building

Even this would be possible today, ....... at least when you would agree paying 1500 € extra ! :D

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